From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #279 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, February 22 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 279 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #234 [gertus@aol.com] Re: JoniMitchell.com 1996-2013? [Michael Paz ] Re: Wizard of Id vs Suzanne ["Mark" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 22:42:50 +0000 From: gertus@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #234 Hi Carmel, Yes, I can hear Sandy too, very clearly. Also, one of her songs mentions "Chelsea Morning". She has a lot of talent and a lovely voice so it will be interesting to follow whatever path she takes. She iimmersed herself in British traditional music for a while and also has some classical training. I am delighted to see she has chosen to do some Bert Jansch songs. Glad you like her to, Jacky On 19 Feb 2013, at 18:39, carmel rotem wrote: > > > thanks Jacky! > > I listened to that link, as well as to some other songs of her on youtube and I really like them. > her style remindes me more of Sandy Denny than Joni, but anyway I'm sure she's influenced by both. > > really great find! > Carmel. > > > Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 09:03:38 -0500 (EST) > From: Gertus@aol.com > Subject: Olivia Chaney > > I haven't written anything to the list for eons but I just had alert people > to someone I have just discovered here in the UK. I was listening to a > folk program on BBC Radio and heard a track called Ballade by Olivia Chaney > and it was so beautiful I needed to know more about her. > _http://ochaney.amazingtunes.com/tunes/168523_ (http://ochaney.amazingtunes.com/tunes/168523) > I was amazed to find her lovely version of ACOY on YouTube. It's very much > a tribute version and, of course, she is being described as the new British > Joni Mitchell, something she will have to live with, but she is so > talented. Have a listen. _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VipgQCfu824_ > (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VipgQCfu824) > > Jacky > > ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 18:57:28 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: JoniMitchell.com 1996-2013? Done. Les please call me asap! Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com On Feb 20, 2013, at 1:02 PM, Les Irvin wrote: Joniphiles - I am personally being sued by a photographer for 4 photos of hers that were uploaded to JoniMitchell.com by an anonymous fan. She is demanding anywhere from $25,000 to $600,000 from me. I am not asking for a single penny from anyone, but I am asking you to join the email campaign in my defense. See more details here: http://jonimitchell.com/justice.cfm Thanks for your help, Les ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 18:09:08 -0800 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: Wizard of Id vs Suzanne I was just researching some of what is known about Joni's relationship with Cohen. One source, 'Heck of a Guy - The Other Leonard Cohen Site', other being other than the official Leonard Cohen site, said that Judy Collins introduced Joni to Leonard at the Newport Folk Festival in 1967. Copyright on JoniMitchell.com for 'The Wizard of Is' says 1966. That would put it before the two met if what I read was accurate. According to Wikipedia, the song Suzanne was first recorded by Judy Collins on her 1966 album 'In My Life'. The lyrics were first released in Cohen's 1966 book of poetry, 'Parasites of Heaven'. So if all of that is true, it is possible that Joni had heard 'Suzanne' before she wrote 'The Wizard of Is'. Mark in Seattle Perhaps they had collaborated on developing the music and then she decided to let him have it instead of her? Or could she have written it first and then she let LC adapt it into Suzanne with his lyrics? And perhaps that is why it was never released on an album by Joni? Or was it released? I don't recall it on her early albums. Sorry if this was discussed already, but I looked back and couldn't find where it was." I rarely post without doing my homework/research/fact-checking, but I am going out on a limb here. I believe that I looked at this at one point in the past, and concluded to my satisfaction that Suzanne was written before Cohen/Mitchell became an item. That would make W of I something of a knockoff by Joni of an already written LC song. Which might also explain why she had the good sense not to record it. If I am wrong, I apologize to all (including Joni). Bobsart ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2013 #279 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------