From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #199 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, February 5 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 199 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Magdalene Laundries [Joe Jones ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 14:48:32 +0000 From: Joe Jones Subject: Magdalene Laundries Hi, Here's an article on the Magdalene Laundries. http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2013/0205/1224329656988.html Joe (St. Asaph, North Wales) np - Joni Live at Red Rocks - 83/07/30, FM SBD. , On 5 February 2013 08:00, onlyJMDL Digest wrote: > onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, February 5 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 048 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > RE: Song To A Seagull now covered in its entirety [Susan Tierney > McNamara] > Bob's cocers collectionn [ > IVPAUL42@aol.com] > Re: Song To A Seagull now covered in its entirety > [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] > Re: Song To A Seagull now covered in its entirety [Michael Paz > Re: Bob's covers collection > [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] > Re: Song To A Seagull now covered in its entirety [Dave Blackburn > Song To A Seagull now covered in its entirety > [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] > RE: Song To A Seagull now covered in its entirety [Susan Tierney > McNamara] > Re: Song To A Seagull now covered in its entirety [Catherine McKay > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 20:20:30 +0000 > From: Susan Tierney McNamara > Subject: RE: Song To A Seagull now covered in its entirety > > That's so interesting that the For The Roses songbook was terrible for > piano, because it was one of the only early songbooks that included the > alternate tunings! So happy to hear you and Michael are almost done with > your gargantuan project!!! YAY! YAY! YAY! :-) > > Susan Tierney McNamara > email: sem8@cornell.edu > > > - -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Dave > Blackburn > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 3:10 PM > To: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > Cc: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Song To A Seagull now covered in its entirety > > To the pianists amongst us > > And, in another landmark moment that may elicit more "whatever" than > "yay", I and my piano transcribing cohort Michael Dunn in Australia have > been knuckling down to finish all the remaining piano pieces from For The > Roses, which along with C&S contains the bulk of Joni's piano songs. We are > now done and doing final proof reading. Some, like Let the Wind Carry Me, > are monsters, and we have written out all vocal and woodwind parts as well > as piano. The published songbooks for this album are laughably incorrect > and we took on the job of presenting the correct unabridged scores for this > lovely album. Part of the motivation came from the fact that the Mutts are > to perform the whole of FTR on April 6th in San Diego (wanna come? - you > really should!) and intend to do it right. > > A couple of piano pieces from Blue and LOTC remain to be charted but as > far as the 70s albums are concerned we're close to having the project > wrapped up. The published version of Paprika Plains is very good so we'll > probably leave that one. As we complete them I upload them to the piano > transcription database so put your 2.5x reading glasses on, remember which > clef is which, be prepared to count odd meter bars and dive in to the > wonderful piano pieces Joni wrote. > > Dave > > > > > On Feb 4, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > > > In earlier posts I had commented that every song on STAS had been > > covered with the exception of Pirate of Penance. I'm sure that I also > > added something smarmy about a prediction that it would never be (I'm > > not a fan of this one). Anyway, nom nom nom, I am now eating my words > > as this one HAS recently been recorded and released, performed by a > > group of French musicians led by Joce Mienniel on an album titled > > "Paris Short Stories Saison 1". They must like going after challenging > > compositions, because the other composers they cover include Jaco > > Pastorius, Bjork, and Frank Zappa. > > > > Anyway, cause for celebration as far as I'm concerned. > > > > Joni may be done but her songs go on. > > > > Bob > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity > > to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, > > business-confidential and/or privileged material. > > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby > > notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this > > message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact > > the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender > > and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 03:18:25 -0500 (EST) > From: IVPAUL42@aol.com > Subject: Bob's cocers collectionn > > Kakki wrote: > > Wow, up to 4,000 covers!! That is astounding, Bob. ... Thank you for > all your hard work and sharing over all these years! > I agree it is an astoundiing project and a wonderful accomplishment. > Bob,, I'd like to see a 'Best of" covers collection with 15 to 20 of the > best covers, in your opinion, but with no BSN among them. > I'm still trying to catch up with the JMDL. I've been home only a few days > after seven weeks in a hospital, the first month of it in ICU, with five > surgeries because of a near-fatal infection exacerbated by my diabetes. > I am happy to be home, but the ordeal sapped all my strength, but I am > making progress slowly but surely. > > Paul Ivice > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 15:12:23 -0500 > From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > Subject: Re: Song To A Seagull now covered in its entirety > > Dave, that is quite an accomplishment; I don't know any among us who would > say "whatever" about such an undertaking. As for seeing the show - San > Diego in April is bound to be more hospitable than NYC in January! > > FTR...I'll bet that a certain Kakki will be there. > > Bob > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. 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As for seeing the show - San > Diego in April is bound to be more hospitable than NYC in January! > > FTR...I'll bet that a certain Kakki will be there. > > Bob > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 08:10:34 -0500 > From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > Subject: Re: Bob's covers collection > > Paul, > > I'm glad you're home from a long hospital stay and hope for a continued > recovery. > > What I would suggest from those who only want to hear the best of the best > of the best (which of course is always subjective anyway) is to check out > the new volumes and pull their favorites for their own 'best of' > compilations. Frankly I have enough on my plate managing the covers as I'm > doing. > > Truth be told, there's not a lot of cheese coming out these days, you can > get 15/20 solid tracks from 2 cd's! > > Bob > > > > > From: IVPAUL42@aol.com > To: joni@smoe.org > Date: 02/04/2013 03:23 AM > Subject: Bob's cocers collectionn > Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org > > > > Kakki wrote: > > Wow, up to 4,000 covers!! That is astounding, Bob. ... Thank you for > all your hard work and sharing over all these years! > I agree it is an astoundiing project and a wonderful accomplishment. > Bob,, I'd like to see a 'Best of" covers collection with 15 to 20 of the > best covers, in your opinion, but with no BSN among them. > I'm still trying to catch up with the JMDL. I've been home only a few days > > after seven weeks in a hospital, the first month of it in ICU, with five > surgeries because of a near-fatal infection exacerbated by my diabetes. > I am happy to be home, but the ordeal sapped all my strength, but I am > making progress slowly but surely. > > Paul Ivice > > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 13:17:36 -0800 > From: Dave Blackburn > Subject: Re: Song To A Seagull now covered in its entirety > > Well it's possible that the published transcriptions were from demo > versions and not the versions that ended up on the album if Joel Bernstein > did them. So it may not be lousy transcribing. > > On Feb 4, 2013, at 12:20 PM, Susan Tierney McNamara > wrote: > > > That's so interesting that the For The Roses songbook was terrible for > piano, because it was one of the only early songbooks that included the > alternate tunings! So happy to hear you and Michael are almost done with > your gargantuan project!!! YAY! YAY! YAY! :-) > > > > Susan Tierney McNamara > > email: sem8@cornell.edu > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Dave Blackburn > > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 3:10 PM > > To: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > > Cc: joni@smoe.org > > Subject: Re: Song To A Seagull now covered in its entirety > > > > To the pianists amongst us > > > > And, in another landmark moment that may elicit more "whatever" than > "yay", I and my piano transcribing cohort Michael Dunn in Australia have > been knuckling down to finish all the remaining piano pieces from For The > Roses, which along with C&S contains the bulk of Joni's piano songs. We are > now done and doing final proof reading. Some, like Let the Wind Carry Me, > are monsters, and we have written out all vocal and woodwind parts as well > as piano. The published songbooks for this album are laughably incorrect > and we took on the job of presenting the correct unabridged scores for this > lovely album. Part of the motivation came from the fact that the Mutts are > to perform the whole of FTR on April 6th in San Diego (wanna come? - you > really should!) and intend to do it right. > > > > A couple of piano pieces from Blue and LOTC remain to be charted but as > far as the 70s albums are concerned we're close to having the project > wrapped up. The published version of Paprika Plains is very good so we'll > probably leave that one. As we complete them I upload them to the piano > transcription database so put your 2.5x reading glasses on, remember which > clef is which, be prepared to count odd meter bars and dive in to the > wonderful piano pieces Joni wrote. > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 4, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > > > >> In earlier posts I had commented that every song on STAS had been > >> covered with the exception of Pirate of Penance. I'm sure that I also > >> added something smarmy about a prediction that it would never be (I'm > >> not a fan of this one). Anyway, nom nom nom, I am now eating my words > >> as this one HAS recently been recorded and released, performed by a > >> group of French musicians led by Joce Mienniel on an album titled > >> "Paris Short Stories Saison 1". They must like going after challenging > >> compositions, because the other composers they cover include Jaco > >> Pastorius, Bjork, and Frank Zappa. > >> > >> Anyway, cause for celebration as far as I'm concerned. > >> > >> Joni may be done but her songs go on. > >> > >> Bob > >> ------------------------------------------------------------ > >> The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity > >> to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, > >> business-confidential and/or privileged material. > >> If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby > >> notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > >> distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this > >> message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact > >> the sender and delete the material from any computer. > >> > >> Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender > >> and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > >> ------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 14:44:56 -0500 > From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > Subject: Song To A Seagull now covered in its entirety > > In earlier posts I had commented that every song on STAS had been covered > with the exception of Pirate of Penance. I'm sure that I also added > something smarmy about a prediction that it would never be (I'm not a fan > of this one). Anyway, nom nom nom, I am now eating my words as this one > HAS recently been recorded and released, performed by a group of French > musicians led by Joce Mienniel on an album titled "Paris Short Stories > Saison 1". They must like going after challenging compositions, because > the other composers they cover include Jaco Pastorius, Bjork, and Frank > Zappa. > > Anyway, cause for celebration as far as I'm concerned. > > Joni may be done but her songs go on. > > Bob > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 21:20:21 +0000 > From: Susan Tierney McNamara > Subject: RE: Song To A Seagull now covered in its entirety > > Can I just say outloud that I wish Joel Bernstein would do an interview > for the website. I just think he would be a fountain of Jonilore ... > > Susan Tierney McNamara > email: sem8@cornell.edu > > > - -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Blackburn [mailto:beatntrack@sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 4:18 PM > To: Susan Tierney McNamara > Cc: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com; joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Song To A Seagull now covered in its entirety > > Well it's possible that the published transcriptions were from demo > versions and not the versions that ended up on the album if Joel Bernstein > did them. So it may not be lousy transcribing. > > On Feb 4, 2013, at 12:20 PM, Susan Tierney McNamara > wrote: > > > That's so interesting that the For The Roses songbook was terrible for > > piano, because it was one of the only early songbooks that included > > the alternate tunings! So happy to hear you and Michael are almost > > done with your gargantuan project!!! YAY! YAY! YAY! :-) > > > > Susan Tierney McNamara > > email: sem8@cornell.edu > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > > Dave Blackburn > > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 3:10 PM > > To: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > > Cc: joni@smoe.org > > Subject: Re: Song To A Seagull now covered in its entirety > > > > To the pianists amongst us > > > > And, in another landmark moment that may elicit more "whatever" than > "yay", I and my piano transcribing cohort Michael Dunn in Australia have > been knuckling down to finish all the remaining piano pieces from For The > Roses, which along with C&S contains the bulk of Joni's piano songs. We are > now done and doing final proof reading. Some, like Let the Wind Carry Me, > are monsters, and we have written out all vocal and woodwind parts as well > as piano. The published songbooks for this album are laughably incorrect > and we took on the job of presenting the correct unabridged scores for this > lovely album. Part of the motivation came from the fact that the Mutts are > to perform the whole of FTR on April 6th in San Diego (wanna come? - you > really should!) and intend to do it right. > > > > A couple of piano pieces from Blue and LOTC remain to be charted but as > far as the 70s albums are concerned we're close to having the project > wrapped up. The published version of Paprika Plains is very good so we'll > probably leave that one. As we complete them I upload them to the piano > transcription database so put your 2.5x reading glasses on, remember which > clef is which, be prepared to count odd meter bars and dive in to the > wonderful piano pieces Joni wrote. > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 4, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > > > >> In earlier posts I had commented that every song on STAS had been > >> covered with the exception of Pirate of Penance. I'm sure that I also > >> added something smarmy about a prediction that it would never be (I'm > >> not a fan of this one). Anyway, nom nom nom, I am now eating my words > >> as this one HAS recently been recorded and released, performed by a > >> group of French musicians led by Joce Mienniel on an album titled > >> "Paris Short Stories Saison 1". They must like going after > >> challenging compositions, because the other composers they cover > >> include Jaco Pastorius, Bjork, and Frank Zappa. > >> > >> Anyway, cause for celebration as far as I'm concerned. > >> > >> Joni may be done but her songs go on. > >> > >> Bob > >> ------------------------------------------------------------ > >> The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity > >> to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, > >> business-confidential and/or privileged material. > >> If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby > >> notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > >> distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this > >> message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact > >> the sender and delete the material from any computer. > >> > >> Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > >> sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > >> ------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 20:23:03 -0800 (PST) > From: Catherine McKay > Subject: Re: Song To A Seagull now covered in its entirety > > I'm very impressed at the work you've done on this. Even though my > piano-playing sucks (but I do know which clef is which), I admire your > dedication and precision on those I've seen to date. > >________________________________ > > From: Dave Blackburn > > >To: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > >Cc: joni@smoe.org > >Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 3:09:37 PM > >Subject: Re: Song To A Seagull now > covered in its entirety > > > >To the pianists amongst us > > > >And, in another > landmark moment that may elicit more "whatever" than "yay", I and my piano > transcribing cohort Michael Dunn in Australia have been knuckling down to > finish all the remaining piano pieces from For The Roses, which along with > C&S > contains the bulk of Joni's piano songs. We are now done and doing final > proof > reading. Some, like Let the Wind Carry Me, are monsters, and we have > written > out all vocal and woodwind parts as well as piano. The published songbooks > for > this album are laughably incorrect and we took on the job of presenting the > correct unabridged scores for this lovely album. Part of the motivation > came > from the fact that the Mutts are to perform the whole of FTR on April 6th > in > San Diego (wanna come? - you really should!) and intend to do it right. > > > >A > couple of piano pieces from Blue and LOTC remain to be charted but as far > as > the 70s albums are concerned we're close to having the project wrapped up. > The > published version of Paprika Plains is very good so we'll probably leave > that > one. As we complete them I upload them to the piano transcription database > so > put your 2.5x reading glasses on, remember which clef is which, be > prepared to > count odd meter bars and dive in to the wonderful piano pieces Joni wrote. > > > >Dave > > > > > > > > > >On Feb 4, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > > > >> > In earlier posts I had commented that every song on STAS had been covered > >> > with the exception of Pirate of Penance. I'm sure that I also added > >> > something smarmy about a prediction that it would never be (I'm not a fan > >> > of this one). Anyway, nom nom nom, I am now eating my words as this one > >> > HAS recently been recorded and released, performed by a group of French > >> > musicians led by Joce Mienniel on an album titled "Paris Short Stories > >> > Saison 1". They must like going after challenging compositions, because > >> > the other composers they cover include Jaco Pastorius, Bjork, and Frank > >> > Zappa. > >> > >> Anyway, cause for celebration as far as I'm concerned. > >> > >> > Joni may be done but her songs go on. > >> > >> Bob > >> > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > >> The > information transmitted is intended only for the person > >> or entity to which > it is addressed and may contain > >> proprietary, business-confidential and/or > privileged material. > >> If you are not the intended recipient of this > message you are > >> hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, > dissemination, > >> distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance > upon > >> this message is prohibited. 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