From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #1734 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, December 4 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 1734 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: paprika plains [Dave Blackburn ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 21:27:59 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: paprika plains Betsy, why, thank you and how good to know one of your lifes desires will soon be fulfilled! A nice manageable goal, that one! Im not sure what remix you are referring to; I wasnt aware of one. If there is a new mix (as opposed to a remaster) it is possible that pitch correction was used if it was done after 1999 when that technology first appeared. As for the volume issue, there is certainly a huge disparity between the volume of the three movements, which we know were spliced together. It bothered me that Bernie Grundman did not address this when he mastered the album originally. I have worked with him on a project and discovered he believes in minimal manipulation of the source, assuming he has been brought what the artist approved of in the mixing phase. That seems like that is the case with DJRD in general, which in my opinion had a thin and rather unengaging sound, at least on the CD transfer I have. The vinyl may have been better. A few years ago I took care of that by remastering the whole album in a little more modern way. I can make a link available if youd like my version. As of today, my transcribing mate in Australia, Michael Dunn, is helping me with the rather large task of typesetting the original pencil score of Paprika Plains, so between us the job should proceed much quicker. Michael has done some super accurate charts for the website, including Woodstock, Rainy Night House, Banquet, Let the wind carry me, I Had a King, and Down to You, which we worked on together. The goal of a complete and accurate library of Jonis music gets closer every year. Dave On Dec 3, 2013, at 8:24 PM, Betsy Blue wrote: > Dave, you are the best. A Paprika Plains score is the only thing I wanted > out of this group when I joined. I don't always have time to listen to the > song when I shuffle around to it, but I am always in the mood. > > I have remix questions. Why was the line "Gotta get some air" cut? I was > kind of attached to it, although I don't think the song suffers without it. > Who decided to push the project forward? Was any digital pitch correction > done? Why was the volume so low in the first part of the original? > > Some of the poetic passages I love are the description of all the smells in > the ladies' room, the beating drum reflected in the piano, the alliteration > of beads/bottles and the double entendre "smashed", the visual depiction of > the disco ball, and all the dreamy floating. > > The music is amazing. Literally Somehow, I only recently realized that > Wayne Shorter was on soprano, so now I pay special attention to his part. > > Betsy > On Dec 3, 2013 7:44 AM, "JMDL Digest" wrote: > >> >> JMDL Digest Tuesday, December 3 2013 Volume 2013 : Number >> 1719 >> >> >> >> ========== >> >> TOPICS and authors in this Digest: >> -------- >> Re: paprika plains [Dave Blackburn < >> beatntrack@att.net>] >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 07:37:44 -0800 >> From: Dave Blackburn >> Subject: Re: paprika plains >> >> Funny you should mention this opus at this time, Marianne, as my recent >> Q&A interview with PP orchestrator Mike Gibbs >> http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2686&from=search also >> included me asking him if he might still have the score he wrote. After a >> few weeks of searching cupboards and bookcases he discovered a full set of >> photocopies of it. They are low res (remember photostat machines in 1977?) >> and hard to read but zoomed in on a big screen the notes are legible. So, I >> am engaged in the slow but worthwhile job of retranscribing the whole >> piece, piano, vocal and orchestra, with Mike s score to work from. I am >> inputting it into Sibelius notation software, and it may be 30-40 pages >> long when it s finished, but will eventually be a valuable addition to the >> website s spectacular transcription library, in which this piece is still >> conspicuously absent. Someday, someone will get the idea to perform PP live >> with an orchestra and this undertaking will make that possible. In! >> fact, Mike told me that it was being considered for Travelogue and he >> sent his score to Vince Mendoza who would have had to comb through it as I >> am doing now. For whatever reason it was not included; maybe the definitive >> version had already been done. I ll blare the announcement from the >> rooftops when it s ready for viewing. >> >> cheers >> Dave >> >> >> >> On Dec 3, 2013, at 4:20 AM, Marianne Rizzo wrote: >> >>> Let's turn our attention to paprika plains. >>> WOW >>> >>> Utterly amazing. >>> wonderful, amazing, extroadinarily beautiful . . . words, for me do >> not seem >>> to do justice. >>> >>> I would like to hear about your reactions to this. >>> It is a complete masterpiece. >>> Have a great day, all joni wonderful people. >>> xoxo >>> Love Marianne >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of JMDL Digest V2013 #1719 >> ****************************** >> >> ------- >> To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. >> Unsubscribe by clicking here: >> mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe >> ------- ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2013 #1734 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. 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