From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #1706 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, November 27 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 1706 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Free Man in Paris - Geffen [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Free Man in Paris - Geffen ["David J. Phillips" ] Free Man in Paris - Geffen [Ange T ] Re: Strange Boy [Catherine McKay ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 13:53:30 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Free Man in Paris - Geffen I believe that was about Jann Wenner (Rolling Stone editor) - yes? Bob NP: Emerson, Lake & Palmer, "Manticore" From: "David J. Phillips" To: JMDL JMDL , Date: 11/27/2013 01:51 PM Subject: Re: Free Man in Paris - Geffen Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org I always thought, for no good reason, that it was Geffen on whom she threw a drink in Lead Balloon. djp Dave Blackburn wrote: I'd also love to find myself a manager like David Geffen! Ange in Oz angetakats.com.au I think Geffen could be as ruthless a businessman as they come, but maybe thats not a bad thing if hes working FOR you, not AGAINST. I have to say, however, that what Joni was allowed to do artistically with him as the label boss at Asylum speaks really well of his respect for her. He was making huge money from The Eagles, Jackson Browne etc and this allowed him to have a pure art person on the label that didnt generate as many sales. Nowadays that would be freakishly un-bottom line thinking. To put it another way, I believe Jonis finest work was encouraged and allowed to be released without corporate interference because of Geffens respect for her. It soon fell apart, but while their relationship lasted I think it benefitted her greatly. Comments? Dave - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 13:46:23 -0500 From: "David J. Phillips" Subject: Re: Free Man in Paris - Geffen I always thought, for no good reason, that it was Geffen on whom she threw a drink in Lead Balloon. djp Dave Blackburn wrote: I'd also love to find myself a manager like David Geffen! Ange in Oz angetakats.com.au I think Geffen could be as ruthless a businessman as they come, but maybe thats not a bad thing if hes working FOR you, not AGAINST. I have to say, however, that what Joni was allowed to do artistically with him as the label boss at Asylum speaks really well of his respect for her. He was making huge money from The Eagles, Jackson Browne etc and this allowed him to have a pure art person on the label that didnt generate as many sales. Nowadays that would be freakishly un-bottom line thinking. To put it another way, I believe Jonis finest work was encouraged and allowed to be released without corporate interference because of Geffens respect for her. It soon fell apart, but while their relationship lasted I think it benefitted her greatly. Comments? Dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 09:34:04 -0800 From: Laurie Antonioli Subject: "Songs of Shadow, Songs of Light" Hi Dear Joni Fans, I'm about 2 weeks out from finishing the fundraising for this project: http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/songs-of-shadow-songs-of-light/x/1830694 And the next 7 donors, for $25 gets the CD plus a beautiful frameable postcard of Joni's artwork. Please see the attached. Hope it attaches! Feel free to "friend" me on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/laurie.antonioli And here's my website: www.laurieantonioli.com For bigger donors there's other perks, like a poster portrait of Neil Young, drawn by Joni. You'll see all of this if you go to the Indiegogo site. I've also got Joni books, DVD's and more. Thanks for your consideration. We're going into Fantasy Studios on December 16th - 19th. One fun "insider" fact: we are recording "Eastern Rain" a song Joni never released but is available to hear on YouTube. A really beautiful piece. Thanks for taking a peek at the project. I can't wait to be out of marathon mode (my job as the Director of the Vocal Program at The Jazzschool in Berkeley has me also busy with end of year performances with students) and also, non-Joni related, our school just became an accredited institution - we are on the same level as Berklee School of Music, Manhattan School and so on now. Very exciting news as we've worked for 3 years to get this accomplished! Once I get finished with the recording, I'll have time to pour through all the Joni posts that I'm keeping in a file - looking forward to that as there's a treasure trove of information you all keep writing about. It's been great to be in this group and read your posts! Happy Holidays! All the very best, Laurie Antonioli [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Composite.jpg] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 10:53:02 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Free Man in Paris - Geffen Kudos to you for listening all the way through that one! On Nov 27, 2013, at 10:46 AM, David J. Phillips wrote: > I always thought, for no good reason, that it was Geffen on whom she > threw a drink in Lead Balloon. > > djp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 05:34:34 +1000 From: Ange T Subject: Free Man in Paris - Geffen Good morning listers, I'm sure that you've already seen 'Inventing David Geffen' but it has only just been broadcast down here in Australia (we are a little behind the rest of the world!) and I wanted to share some thoughts. First of all - I had NO IDEA Joni wrote Free Man in Paris about David! I fee like the last Joni fan on earth to discover this (clearly not enough of a fan!) and it has made me love the song, and Joni, even more. I adore how David Crosby says that Joni captured the truth of the man in that song. But I wished they'd been able top include more soundbites from Joni, talking about her business relationship with Geffen. I'm now left to wonder what she thought of the man? Have any of you read 'The Operator' memoir about Geffen? Is Joni interviewed in that book about her dealings with him? I'm SO annoyed that my library doesn't have that book....would love to read it. I'd also love to find myself a manager like David Geffen! Ange in Oz angetakats.com.au ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 03:40:57 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Strange Boy That's very funny. It is very strange and very true. And why does everyone at the supermarket decide to go to the checkout counters at the same time? - ----- Original Message ----- > From: David J. Phillips > To: > Cc: "joni@smoe.org" > Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 11:53:27 PM > Subject: Re: Strange Boy > > After all of this wonderfully evocative talk about that wonderfully > evocative song, I feel kind of foolish bringing this up, but: > > one of my favorite cartoons is of a highway sign reading "TRAFFIC EASES > INEXPLICABLY 1/2 MILE AHEAD" > > DJP > > > > On 22/11/13 21:5856, c Karma wrote: >> I believe that line references someone looking out at a freeway.(Hmmmm, the >> 405?) and becoming mesmerized by the peristaltic visual of groups of cars > as >> they clump and relax...imagine the larger picture of what it looks like > when >> you are in traffic and the drivers in front of you slow and stop briefly, >> forcing you to slow to a stop, which forces those following you to slow to > a >> stop and on and on (mass), then suddenly the traffic eases and the group of >> cars has space between as they accelerate, only to slow and stop again > (mass). >> It's a repeating sequence of mass and space.CCFrom: > Bob.Muller@Fluor.com >> Subject: Strange Boy >> >> Mike, thanks for that - what do you (or any of you) make of these lines: >> >> "He sees the cars as sets of waves, sequences of mass and space" >> >> ? ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2013 #1706 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. 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