From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #1570 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, November 2 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 1570 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Jazz Snobs [David Lahm ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 10:09:02 -0400 From: David Lahm Subject: Re: Jazz Snobs With one claim in Laurie's "jazz snobs" post, I could not disagree more: "the masters are all gone." Joe Lovano isn't gone; Ted Rosenthal isn't gone; Billy Hart isn't gone; Jon Faddis isn't gone; Mark Dresser isn't gone; Eddie Gomez isn't gone; Chick Corea isn't gone; Dave Liebman isn't gone. DAVID LAHM On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Laurie Antonioli wrote: > I haven't had time to follow all the recent posts about the "Kate Perry > incident" but, no one is snobbier than jazz musicians. It's been > interesting to me that many of them have "come clean" about how much Joni > has touched them. And, many jazz singers have included Joni's songs on > their recordings. Tierney Sutton's latest is an example, though her story > is that she didn't even get hip to Joni until about 13 years or so ago. > Some of us, like me, started with Joni and then went on to jazz. As you > know, I'm making a new record of Joni's music and I tell the story here: > > http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/songs-of-shadow-songs-of-light/x/1830694 > > And I'm not the least bit snobby about Joni's impact on me. Believe it or > not, the "jazz police" have given me a couple tickets already! > > The biggest point, to me, is that music is not clearly one thing or the > other. At least in jazz, all the masters now are gone. Just a handful > left. And with that, the young jazz musicians are calling on all their > "childhood" influences - jazz singing is such a genre-bending affair > anymore that it's hard to even know how to classify the new crop of "jazz > singers." I deal with this all the time as I run the Vocal Program at a > jazz institution. > > Back to Joni - her music lends itself to jazz, as she was deeply influenced > by jazz music, but, it also transcends and crosses over to people who like > pop, folk, rock, country and so on. Her music, depending on "who" is doing > it can live in any of these environments and THAT is what makes it like > Ellington or Cole Porter. Her songs are like the "Great American Songbook" > or "Standards" which were written in the 1930's and 40's. From 1960's on > up, Joni carved out a niche that works in many settings and because of > that, will live on as some of the most important popular music ever > written. > > Laurie Antonioli ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2013 #1570 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------