From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #1563 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, November 2 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 1563 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Katy becoming Joni [Paul Ivice ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 02:08:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Ivice Subject: Re: Katy becoming Joni Here's what she said: I'll probably turn into more of a Joni Mitchell. As I inch towards my 30s, I think my fourth record will be more of an acoustic guitar album. Clearly she's not saying she can be Joni. She seems to be saying that she will be trying to evolve her music to more of an acoustic style. In the style of Joni... As we know, that's a major assumption and simplification. We are all Joni experts...we could point out a few things to her. She's a baby. She's 29 for Christ sake people...remember when? She didn't mean to slight Joni. I hope she covers Joni on her next record. HAHAHAHA! Then Bob can add her to one of his cover lists and redeem himself. At that time, the "herd" can disperse, Bob can lay down his staff forevermore, and all will be well again in JoniLand! ;D I'm hopeful! I still think what she said was arrogant and insulting to Joni, as if it would be easy for Katy to do that. Furthermore, it seems to me it gets worse because Katy has a poor concept of Joni's career and growth as a musician if she thinks of Joni merely as an acoustic guitar player. Joni started as an acoustic folk singer and evolved through electric rock and into jazz. Whoever called Katy a pea-brain was closer to the truth than you gave him credit for, Paul Ivice ;>) - -----Original Message----- From: Sally To: Paul Ivice Cc: gpkm6208 ; dahrius1 ; revrvl ; joni Sent: Sat, Nov 2, 2013 12:45 am Subject: Re: Katy becoming Joni Sorry Paul. I think you misunderstand the meaning in Katy Perry's comments. Here's what she said: I'll probably turn into more of a Joni Mitchell. As I inch towards my 30s, I think my fourth record will be more of an acoustic guitar album. Clearly she's not saying she can be Joni. She seems to be saying that she will be trying to evolve her music to more of an acoustic style. In the style of Joni... As we know, that's a major assumption and simplification. We are all Joni experts...we could point out a few things to her. She's a baby. She's 29 for Christ sake people...remember when? She didn't mean to slight Joni. I hope she covers Joni on her next record. HAHAHAHA! Then Bob can add her to one of his cover lists and redeem himself. At that time, the "herd" can disperse, Bob can lay down his staff forevermore, and all will be well again in JoniLand! ;D I'm hopeful! > On Nov 1, 2013, at 10:39 PM, Paul Ivice wrote: > > The arrogance, I fear, is certainly not coming from this gal Katy. Please > read > some of the comments being made by the listers. > > > On that point, my friend, you are clearly wrong. It is arrogant for Katy to > say that she could become like Joni Mitchell as if that were her fallback > position. At least that's what it sounded to me like she was saying. > > Joni followed her own heart, or her muse, to create the kind of music she > wanted, not what she thought would be the most popular or sold the most > recordings. She made her audience follow her, if they chose to, but she did > not follow her audience, which is what pop stars do. > To paraphrase Voltaire, I don't like some of the choices Joni made, but I > respect the hell out of the reasons she made them. > I don't see Katy Perry having those kind of guts. Instead, she seems to be > interested in beingpart of the star-maker machinery that pumps out popular > songs. I am not criticizing her for that. It is what most people would do. But > it does not give her the riht to think she could become like Joni. > > > > Paul Ivice ;>) ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2013 #1563 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------