From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #153 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, January 28 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 153 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: (NJC) Canada and the US (was Lyrics) [Catherine McKay Subject: Re: (NJC) Canada and the US (was Lyrics) I hate to say it, but I think it may be a world-wide phenomenon, that people are ignorant, and sometimes it's by choice. It's very strange but, we have all this information around us, coming at us from multiple sources, so you'd think we'd be much better informed than we are. And maybe, in some ways, we are. Or maybe it's *because* there's so much information coming at us, with no real filters, that it all takes on the same kind of importance. Something as horrendous as the fire in the night club in Brazil that killed over 200 people seems to get the same attention as what Kim Kardashian is up to. In some ways I can understand that people might just want to turn it all off, because sometimes it really is overwhelming. I keep telling myself I am NOT going to pay attention to the news (any kind of news, except for the weather) and most definitely I am NOT going to read the ill-informed trollish posts that I see on some websites, but still, I get sucked in, and then wonder at how mean-spirited and small-minded some people are (but note, that trolls usually don't use their real names.) I really do think that most of us are just very ill-informed, some deliberately so. If you're faced with so many choices and so many sources of information, sometimes maybe it's just easier to see things in a very black-and-white, right-or-wrong, one-or-zero sort of way. I think back to history classes when I was very young and how boring it was, mostly because it was about how *white* *men* "discovered" this and that and "conquered" other people. When my own kids learned history, they had a more open view of it and talked about the other side of things, the indigenous people, in what I think was probably a more informed and less colonialistic point of view. We are all so indoctrinated from the time we're children, whether it's in a nationalistic way, or religious (if we were raised that way, and I was, and I believed a lot of that religious stuff for quite a while and, even though I questioned it, for quite a while felt "bad" for questioning it - nowadays, I don't give a crap!). I've blathered on about this long enough, I think, and it truly is a bit of a mess sometimes. >________________________________ > From: Sally >To: Lori Renee Fye >Cc: Catherine McKay ; Phyliss S Ward ; "joni@smoe.org" >Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 7:24:12 PM >Subject: Re: (NJC) Canada and the US (was Lyrics) > >Lol! I guess that I have to target my words carefully! They've managed to manipulate the news to target patriotic feelings that people have...right to bear arms, right to illegally bomb other countries back into the Stone Age on the off chance they might be doing something we think is bad, etc. As I said I think they get inside people's heads because they aren't informed. They simply don't know the facts and rather than seek them, they fall back on all of the indoctrination we have ALL had where these things are concerned. I'm reading an awesome (albeit a bit dry) book right now that goes to the very heart of this subject called "Lies My Teacher Told Me" (James Loewen). My conclusion is this...we're WAY to stupid to be arrogant! We're just not thinking clearly. Plenty of arrogant people here too. I've been stunned by the thoughts of many friends I grew up with who are in no way arrogant...just ill informed! > >Sent from Confunction Junction on my iPhone > >On Jan 28, 2013, at 7:13 PM, Lori Renee Fye wrote: > >>> I'm not sure if I'd say that arrogance is the right word. >> >> It's the right word. >> >> Lori >> Wales ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2013 #153 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------