From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #1523 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, November 1 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 1523 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Katy Perry On The 180 That Saved Her Career [Gerald Kent Subject: Re: Katy Perry On The 180 That Saved Her Career Very nice post Vince. Nice to see someone follow it through. Thanks Sent from my iPad > On Oct 29, 2013, at 11:01 PM, Vince Lavieri wrote: > > What follows below is the wording of NPR. I am not a Katy Perry fan but I > found the interview informative in that my perceptions were altered as to her > depth. Not that she has to answer to me. The fact that Scott Simon did a > piece on her says something profound about her. And I wish the Huffington > Post article had had more content on Perry's Joni comment. > > What I know is this, that as a whole with some obvious exceptions the JMDL > tends to trash on all younger female pop singers. An Erica Badu will get some > respect but mention Taylor Swift and the knives come out. A blues-y jazzy Amy > Winehouse gets love but a woman who sings in the pop category gets put down > and castigated. And if a young female pop singer speaks of her respect for > Joni, the hate fest erupts. As it did when Taylor Swift was connected to > Joni, spoke well of her. The condescending comments were so numerous. > > Young male pop singers also get dissed but the venom is stronger on the > females. > > I have said before and I will repeat, that too many (and one is too many) have > forgotten two things: 1. hope I did before I get old and 2. Mothers, fathers > through out the land, don't criticize what you don't understand. > > When I think of how my generation was in the late 60s and early 70s, with > hair, clothes or lack thereof, sexual liberation, drugs, and all kinds of > posing and self aggrandizement, a Katy Perry, Lorde, Miley Cyrus, Gaga, > Kei$ha, are what they are: us reflected back at ourselves. They are us, > current generation to our faded generation that mocks the way our parents > mocked our music. The quip (which I suspect was said in humor, not to hurt) > about blue hair would never be made about Cindi Lauper but then she is in her > 40s or 50s. Katy Perry's hair has always been black to my knowledge but maybe > I missed a color change. Prism is a powerful album, Roar to me is over done > but so is all Led Zepplin. Not like she invented the arena sound. Teenage > Dream was one of the great albums of this decade. One can respect what we do > not like, understand what is not our genre, and realize that sometimes the > snark comes on so strong it invites the charge of misogyny and reflects poorly > on the elders who are pissed off by the music of the young, which of course > the young should be doing, and that female pop singers do not diminish Joni by > the fact of their talent and success. > > Vince who wishes people listened to what Miley sang when she twerked Robin and > remembered that group sex in public was a fun fashion for people now in their > 50s and 60s who are shocked, shocked that someone would act out why don't we > do it in the road. And is in agreement with those who have been troubled by > the Katy Perry comments today. > > > > > > I found the following story on the NPR iPhone App: > > Katy Perry On The 180 That Saved Her Career > by NPR Staff > > NPR - October 26, 2013 > > Katy Perry is among the world's biggest pop artists, but her fans know her > current career is actually a second take. She first tried her hand in the > music world as a teenager, making Christian music as Katy Hudson. She released > an album in 2001, which failed to break through.... > > http://www.npr.org/2013/10/26/240760441/katy-perry-returns-with-a-roar?sc=17& > f=7 > > > > Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2013 #1523 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------