From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #1483 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, October 30 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 1483 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni on Cover of UNCUT Magazine [Les Irvin ] Re: No Apologies [Victor ] RE: Katy Perry and Joni Mitchell ["Susan E. McNamara" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 10:21:06 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: Re: Joni on Cover of UNCUT Magazine Upon first glance, this interview appears to be an edited version of the televised Jian Ghomeshi interview from this summer. On 10/29/2013 7:45 PM, est86mlm@ameritech.net wrote: > Uncut's page here posted 'some' info on what's included on the CD > under the heading IN THIS ISSUE. But no song titles. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 12:17:58 -0400 From: Victor Subject: Re: No Apologies Amen...!!! "Laughing it all away"- Joni Mitchell Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 30, 2013, at 11:40 AM, c Karma wrote: > > Arkay wrote:"The constant barrage [of mysogynist sentiment] is not a > reference to the JMDL list, but to society > and the media as a whole.""...then do what you need to in order to let go of > that behaviour and be a > better man. Be the kind of man that learns, and unlearns, the kind that > says I'm sorry and MEANS it." > I don't believe that any single individual on this list should be placed in > the position of apologizing to assuage indignation caused by society and the > media as a whole. > CC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 16:58:06 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: Katy Perry and Joni Mitchell I like how this discussion has talked about the influence of Katy on the young kids ... my niece opted to join an after school music program (kind of reminds me of School of Rock) because of her love of Katy. She's learning how to play guitar and bass at the ripe age of 9! I love that!!! I'm all for people setting a high bar for their achievements ... but I've also tried to teach my daughter that having a high bar means working hard and knowing you will hit many rocks in the road. Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu From: Arkay Adkisson [mailto:piercedcanvas@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 12:46 PM To: Susan E. McNamara Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Katy Perry and Joni Mitchell I watched a documentary/concert film about Katy Perry with my teens, and I was impressed with her work ethic and her dedication to her career. I wouldn't call myself a fan-not by definition, but I do appreciate a couple of the songs my kids play often, others are like an ear worm I can't get out of my head unless I use a stronger ear worm ("i would walk 500 miles usually does the trick) Of course, a lot of artists cite Joni as an inspiration-I certainly am not a fan of all of them-but her music does speak to millions of people-all with different styles of their own. Katy Perry is very young, but has been 'in this career' for years and I'm sure her music, lyrics, and style will keep growing and evolving-like Joni Mitchell, sure-but also like any artist that practices her craft for decades. Arkay On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Susan E. McNamara > wrote: I don't see anything wrong with loving Katy Perry ... my niece Piper idolizes her. I make no assumptions that the type of music she makes is not uplifting and enjoyable to millions of people, whatever age they are. It is true too that her genre of music has been very open to many young women who are doing great and making a lot of money. When she says (me paraphrasing) "I want to be like a Joni Mitchell" ... is she saying that she would like to be respected like Joni as an artist and great songwriter who followed her art no matter where it took her ... or is she saying that she wants to take her art wherever it takes her even if that means being ostracized ... Joni's courage was based on a surrender to the gift and where it took her was a risk she was willing to take. I guess time will tell, but I don't fault people for being skeptical ... throwing around Joni's name pretty much puts you in the bull's eye ... are you that gifted? Put your money where your mouth is, I say. I hope Katy Perry succeeds!!!! Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu> ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2013 #1483 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------