From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #1439 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, October 28 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 1439 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1431 [shadows and light ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 09:43:15 -0700 From: shadows and light Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1431 wonderful video, hey, kate bennett, any video from your soho benefit? i have never gotten over that version of coyote. On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Susan E. McNamara wrote: > Great idea Barbara. You made me think of another idea. I have a > surveymonkey account. I could send a survey link and everyone could send > me their tribute info, happy birthday wish, and favorite song, and I could > compile the info. Yes, getting it to her by the 7th will be tricky!!! I > was sitting up last night cursing my mind for all its ideas!! :-) > > Susan Tierney McNamara > email: sem8@cornell.edu > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Barbara Sullivan > Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 7:55 PM > To: Debra Mann; joni@smoe.org > Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2013 #1431 > > Beautiful arrangemment Debra! Thanks for sharing! > > > > Wonderful Idea's kickin for Ms. Joan's 70th. > > Just a thought, maybe some how everyone on the JMDL list > > could add their name, well wishes and like a favorite song. > > Some how get it sent to her on time... > > She might enjoy scrolling through at her leisure and know first hand how > > much we all love her! > > Problem.. there could be thousands on this list? > > Happy Day, > BARBEARUH > > > > > > > From: debramannmusic@me.com > > Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1431 > > Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 14:29:16 -0400 > > To: joni@smoe.org > > > > Wonderful idea for Joni's birthday! I just recorded a live tribute > > concert > to > > Joni at the Narrows with my jazz quintet on October 17, which I plan > > to release as a CD this year. The show was listed on the > > Jonimitchell.com > site. > > It's wonderful to discover so many mutual fans, and get some of the > > back stories. > > > > Best, > > Debra > > > > > > www.debramann.com > > "LIKE" the Debra Mann Fan Page on Facebook > www.facebook.com/DebraMannFanPage. > > Read my latest blog at http://blog.debramann.com/ Subscribe and be > > notified by email when a new post is up. > > > > > > On Oct 25, 2013, at 3:47 PM, JMDL Digest wrote: > > > > > > > > JMDL Digest Friday, October 25 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 1431 > > > > > > > > > > > > ========== > > > > > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > > > -------- > > > Re: My idea for a gift to Joni on her 70th birthday [shadows and > > > light > > > > Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1430 [Laurie Antonioli > > ] > > > Re: Joni's sensuality [Sally > > ] > > > RE: The bhootsb ["Susan E. McNamara" > > ] > > > Re: DJRD [Sally > > ] > > > Stereogum finally features Joni in their Counting Down (albums from > > > worst > > to best) column [Matthew Tong > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- > > > > > > Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 12:46:44 -0700 > > > From: shadows and light > > > Subject: Re: My idea for a gift to Joni on her 70th birthday > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Susan E. McNamara > > wrote: > > > > > >> I just talked to Les and he said if I coordinated this he could > > >> help get it to Joni. Here's my idea: > > >> > > >> I would love to send her a card with an insert that chronicles all > > >> the > > Joni > > >> Tributes that have happened in the last year, and tell her how much > > >> her music is appreciated by all ages, all over the world. I'm sure > > >> the website and JMDL archives can give me a comprehensive list with > > >> some other research done > on > > >> the > > >> web. Plus we can add Bob's numbers on the Cover front. I guess I > > >> was thinking about how amazed I am that lowly Ithaca is already > > >> planning > their > > >> 5th > > >> annual Joni Tribute and the enthusiasm has not waned one iota. I > > >> think > > she > > >> needs to know this as she enters her twilight years - that she is > > >> not by any stretch of the imagination forgotten, and her music is > > >> not only being played by listeners but played actually by > > >> musicians, too. I'm sure she has an idea that this is true, but > > >> wouldn't it be cool to have it in one place where she can actually > > >> hold it and look at it? > > >> > > >> What do you think? I'm open to other ideas too but we should > > >> probably > get > > >> a > > >> move on ... November 7 is exactly 13 days away ... not including > today!!!! > > >> :) > > >> > > >> > > >> Susan Tierney McNamara > > >> email: sem8@cornell.edu > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 12:22:11 -0700 > > > From: Laurie Antonioli > > > Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1430 > > > > > > One thing I've noticed re: Joni - I'm not sure it has to do with her > > > turning 70, I think not, but, there has been a huge number of people > doing > > > "Joni projects" in the last year or two (starting with Herbie > > > Hancock's > > > record...) - I am doing one and have had this in the works for a > > > long > time, > > > only to find that there are numerous others doing the same thing. I > > > think that it's a kind of new interest in her, much by the "baby > boomer" > > > generation. If it's a baby boomer musician, they, like me, have > > > finally come around to acknowledging the important impact she has > > > had on our musical lives. It's undeniable. She changed the world of > > > music and musicians with her work. And now, there's a lot going on > > > with regard to Joni. In the Bay Area, there was a beautiful > > > production of "Blue" with a different artist doing one song each > > > from the record. It was really incredible. My favorite was the > > > Balkan Choir "Kitka" doing Blue - here's the link: > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVqft_u3iYA > > > one of the finest things I've ever heard. I had goosebumps > > > throughout as I'm from the Balkan region and to hear these harmonies > > > just brought me to my knees. > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:50 AM, JMDL Digest > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > >> JMDL Digest Friday, October 25 2013 Volume 2013 : Number > > 1430 > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ========== > > >> > > >> TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > > >> -------- > > >> The bhootsb [Steve Dulson < > > >> tinkersown@ca.rr.com>] > > >> Joni's birthday ["Susan E. McNamara" < sem8@cornell.edu>] My idea > > >> for a gift to Joni on her 70th birthday ["Susan E. McNamara" > > >> > >> > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> --- > > >> > > >> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 11:11:27 -0400 > > >> From: Steve Dulson > > >> Subject: The bhootsb > > >> > > >> SueNac wrote: > > >> > > >>> he would sit in on b hootsb with Ian and Sylvia and Gordon > > >>> Lightfoot in > > >> Toronto > > >> > > >> Sue, I would play bhootsb with you anytime, whatever the heck it > > >> is! :) > > >> > > >> *************************************************** > > >> Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA > > >> FAR-West (Folk Alliance Region - West) tinkersown@ca.rr.com > > >> www.far-west.org > > >> > > >> ------------------------------ > > >> > > >> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 13:45:53 +0000 > > >> From: "Susan E. McNamara" > > >> Subject: Joni's birthday > > >> > > >> Is the JMDL doing anything for Joni's birthday this year? A Card, > > >> or something? Since it's a milestone year, I was just wondering. > > >> > > >> Susan Tierney McNamara > > >> email: sem8@cornell.edu > > >> > > >> ------------------------------ > > >> > > >> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 17:49:18 +0000 > > >> From: "Susan E. McNamara" > > >> Subject: My idea for a gift to Joni on her 70th birthday > > >> > > >> I just talked to Les and he said if I coordinated this he could > > >> help get it to Joni. Here's my idea: > > >> > > >> I would love to send her a card with an insert that chronicles all > > >> the > > Joni > > >> Tributes that have happened in the last year, and tell her how much > > >> her music is appreciated by all ages, all over the world. I'm sure > > >> the website and JMDL archives can give me a comprehensive list with > > >> some other research done > on > > >> the > > >> web. Plus we can add Bob's numbers on the Cover front. I guess I > > >> was thinking about how amazed I am that lowly Ithaca is already > > >> planning > their > > >> 5th > > >> annual Joni Tribute and the enthusiasm has not waned one iota. I > > >> think > > she > > >> needs to know this as she enters her twilight years - that she is > > >> not by any stretch of the imagination forgotten, and her music is > > >> not only being played by listeners but played actually by > > >> musicians, too. I'm sure she has an idea that this is true, but > > >> wouldn't it be cool to have it in one place where she can actually > > >> hold it and look at it? > > >> > > >> What do you think? I'm open to other ideas too but we should > > >> probably > get > > >> a > > >> move on ... November 7 is exactly 13 days away ... not including > today!!!! > > >> :) > > >> > > >> > > >> Susan Tierney McNamara > > >> email: sem8@cornell.edu > > >> > > >> ------------------------------ > > >> > > >> End of JMDL Digest V2013 #1430 > > >> ****************************** > > >> > > >> ------- > > >> To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. > > >> Unsubscribe by clicking here: > > >> mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > > >> ------- > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 03:08:00 -0400 > > > From: Sally > > > Subject: Re: Joni's sensuality > > > > > > Hey Mark! > > > > > > Right! :) This got me to referencing in my mind how many times Joni > > > has written about clothing in her songs. We know she's a fashion > > > junkie. It immediately brought to mind: > > > She don't like my kick pleat skirt > > > She don't like my eyelids painted green She don't like me staying up > > > late In my high-heeled shoes Living for that Rock'n'Roll dancing > > > scene > > > > > > Seems to me she's mentioned bridal gowns more than once but I can > > > only > > recall > > > it in Song for Sharon. > > > > > > PeaceLove, Sally in freezing Virginia > > > > > >> On Oct 25, 2013, at 1:03 AM, "Mark" wrote: > > >> > > >> And she ends the song with: > > >> > > >> The streets were never really mine > > >> Not mine, not mine these glamor gowns. > > >> > > >> Mark in foggy Seattle > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- From: Sally > > >> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 8:30 PM > > >> To: Shari Eaton > > >> Cc: jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com ; joni@smoe.org ; > > >> betsyblue82@gmail.com > > >> Subject: Re: Joni's sensuality > > >> > > >> Hey folks! I'm not sure that's joni! :0 I never noticed it either > > >> but > > I'm > > > doubtful! Could be I guess. What I'm wondering now is, who is the kid? > > Can't > > > imagine I don't know that...but, I don't! > > >> As far as how she dresses, I'm not sure if I think it's "modest". I > think > > > she wears a lot of interesting stuff...it's artsy in my opinion. > > > She's a > > very > > > stylish girl. Some of my favorite lines of hers which most certainly > > > is autobiographical and so incredibly descriptive and visual: > > >> > > >> But even on the scuffle > > >> The cleaner's press was in my jeans And any eye for detail Caught a > > >> little lace along the seams > > >> > > >> > > >>> On Oct 24, 2013, at 7:43 PM, Shari Eaton > wrote: > > >>> > > >>> I never noticed that before! Is it verifiably her? Looks like it > > >>> could > be > > > a > > >>> greek statuette or something. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> On Oct 24, 2013, at 3:59 PM, jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> I hope ya'll appreciate how much time it took to trim my quote on > > >>>> the > > >>> smartphone. > > >>>> > > >>>> Anyway, by my count, she was nude in two albums. Everyone > > >>>> remembers > the > > >>> seaside, backside shot on the inside of "For The Roses" but > > >>> everyone > > > forgets > > >>> the full, frontal nudity in black and white, smack dab on the > > >>> cover of > > Don > > >>> Juan's Reckless Daughter. How could you miss it? It is even in > > >>> front of > > > a > > >>> kid, for crying out loud. > > >>>> > > >>>> Jim > > >>>> > > >>>>> She was also mentioned in an article, along with a number of > > >>>>> other > > >>> singers, > > >>>>> as an example of dressing modestly. Interesting, since she did > > >>>>> appear > > > nude > > >>>>> in one album and in a bikini in another. It is all about context. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:27:47 +0000 > > > From: "Susan E. McNamara" > > > Subject: RE: The bhootsb > > > > > > HAHAHA! That was supposed to be hoots but since I put it in quotes > smoe.org > > messed with it. She was referring to hootenannies ... you know what > > they > are, > > right Steve!!!! Miss our little home in New Orleans!!! :-) > > > > > > Susan Tierney McNamara > > > email:B sem8@cornell.edu > > > > > > - -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > > > Steve > > Dulson > > > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 11:11 AM > > > To: joni@smoe.org > > > Subject: The bhootsb > > > > > > SueNac wrote: > > > > > >> he would sit in on b hootsb with Ian and Sylvia and Gordon > > >> Lightfoot in > > Toronto > > > > > > Sue, I would play bhootsb with you anytime, whatever the heck it is! > > > :) > > > > > > *************************************************** > > > Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA > > > FAR-West (Folk Alliance Region - West) tinkersown@ca.rr.com > > > www.far-west.org > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 03:01:53 -0400 > > > From: Sally > > > Subject: Re: DJRD > > > > > > Hey Jim (and all), > > > I'm not sure why or if DJRD is an outcast. I think that trilogy of > records > > > (HOSL/Hejira/DJRD) each stand alone but they also constitute a sort > > > of whole...that flows together. The songs seem to build in > > > complexity in a > > way, > > > that sort of escalates and climaxes with DJRD. Don't you think that > > > the structure of the songs becomes more complicated and maybe less > > > accessible > > in > > > some ways? Don't get me wrong because I've always picked Hejira as > > > my favorite album but DJRD runs a very close second. I think if you > > > compare > > any > > > of the three to the previous record (Court&Spark) it's really apples > > > and oranges. She seemed to say fuck it and went in a direction that > > > pleased > > her > > > at that point. I think she grew so much over the course of those > > > records > > and > > > it gave her the guts to make the Mingus record. > > > I love DJRD! The title track alone is a masterpiece! :D Thanks for > > starting > > > this dialogue. Good thoughts! > > > > > >> To me, this is similar to the themes that people loved more on > > >> Hejira > and > > > THOSL. Why is DJRD an outcast? > > >> > > >> Jim > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Oct 25, 2013, at 1:51 AM, Shari Eaton > wrote: > > >> > > >> I've been listening to DJRD this week and as silly as it sounds I > finally > > > heard her say Myrtle's lawn. I backed it up and listened to it in a > > completely > > > different way .. Recognizing that she was on vacation somewhere and > > > then traveled back home with the guy she was with at the time. It's > > > really difficult for me to remain focused on her story through > > > Dreamland. All > the > > > rich imagery at the start send my mind adrift every time. Same with > > > Otis > & > > > Marlena. I've been studying those two this week. It's a cheap pink > > > rosC) > > keeps > > > playing in my head. It's kind of hard to say! > > >> > > >> Lots of Joni, > > >> - Shari > > >> > > >>> On Oct 24, 2013, at 10:31 PM, jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com wrote: > > >>> > > >>> See, I love this record. I love my country too but there are a LOT > > >>> of > > > reasons to be disillusioned with the USA. Joni explored this duality > > > for > a > > > long time, (which is reflected in her houses too: which this week? > > > BC or > > > LA?) > > >>> > > >>> To me, this is similar to the themes that people loved more on > > >>> Hejira > and > > > THOSL. Why is DJRD an outcast? > > >>> > > >>> Jim > > >>> Now playing in my head: Sting going, "one world is enough For all > > >>> of us" > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> According to Joni, most reviews of the album missed its point: > > "Basically > > > it > > >>>> has to do with turning your back on America and heading into the > > >>>> Third World...at the time Muslims were messing around in > > >>>> Washington, there > > were > > >>>> radical tensions. I was disillusioned. The songs on the album > > >>>> have a > lot > > > of > > >>>> ethnic references and there's a certain sentimentality for the > > >>>> North > > > American > > >>>> Indian." > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 10:48:34 -0700 > > > From: Matthew Tong > > > Subject: Stereogum finally features Joni in their Counting Down > > > (albums > from > > worst to best) column > > > > > > > > > > http://www.stereogum.com/1482732/joni-mitchell-albums-from-worst-to-best/list > > / > > > > > > I have just rejoined the JMDL after being a long time lurker in the > 2000s, > > > so I don't know if this has been talked about already. > > > Blue should have easily been #1, but that's just my opinion. > > > > > > Matt > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > End of JMDL Digest V2013 #1431 > > > ****************************** > > > > > > ------- > > > To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. > > > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > > > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > > > ------- ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2013 #1439 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. 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