From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #1433 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, October 26 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 1433 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: My idea for a gift to Joni on her 70th birthday [shadows and light ] Re: My idea for a gift to Joni on her 70th birthday [Catherine McKay ] Re: joni tributes [Dave Blackburn ] Re: joni tributes [Laurie Antonioli ] Gordon, Joni and Suzanne [kbhla@fastmail.fm] Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1430 [Dave Blackburn ] Judgment of the Moon and Stars [Corey Blake ] Re: joni tributes [Catherine McKay ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:17:44 -0700 From: shadows and light Subject: Re: My idea for a gift to Joni on her 70th birthday didn't she say she had one now and is working on her memoirs using dragonspeak? perhaps she needs one for each house...hahaha On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: > Ha ha! Great idea! Joni had what looked like an Iphone with her when she > did her talk in Toronto a few months ago. I wonder if she's shittin' us > when she says she doesn't own a computer? > > P.S. Sue, I love your idea. I'm so glad some people remember birthdays. I > usually don't! > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Michael Paz > *To:* shadows and light > *Cc:* Susan E. McNamara ; "joni@smoe.org" > > *Sent:* Friday, October 25, 2013 3:55:30 PM > *Subject:* Re: My idea for a gift to Joni on her 70th birthday > > a computer. LMAO!!!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > I just talked to Les and he said if I coordinated this he could help get > > it to > > Joni. Here's my idea: > > > > I would love to send her a card with an insert that chronicles all the > Joni > > Tributes that have happened in the last year, and tell her how much her > > music > > is appreciated by all ages, all over the world. I'm sure the website and > > JMDL > > archives can give me a comprehensive list with some other research done > on > > the > > web. Plus we can add Bob's numbers on the Cover front. I guess I was > > thinking about how amazed I am that lowly Ithaca is already planning > their > > 5th > > annual Joni Tribute and the enthusiasm has not waned one iota. I think > she > > needs to know this as she enters her twilight years - that she is not by > > any > > stretch of the imagination forgotten, and her music is not only being > > played > > by listeners but played actually by musicians, too. I'm sure she has an > > idea > > that this is true, but wouldn't it be cool to have it in one place where > > she > > can actually hold it and look at it? > > > > What do you think? I'm open to other ideas too but we should probably > get > > a > > move on ... November 7 is exactly 13 days away ... not including > today!!!! > > :) > > > > > > Susan Tierney McNamara > > email: sem8@cornell.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:11:59 -0700 From: Corey Blake Subject: Re: Gordon, Joni and Suzanne I also have a weakness for Gordon Lightfoot. I think he's highly under appreciated as a songwriter (at least in the US); his melodies are extremely likable, catchy and memorable but it's not empty pop. There's just something very charming about him. I have a 2-CD set of his first 4 albums and they all really hold up. On Oct 25, 2013, at 2:33 PM, kbhla@fastmail.fm wrote: > I was always as nuts about Gordon Lightfoot as Joni in the early days. > The Joni songs that I've long thought were most like Gordon songs are > Urge for Going and Eastern Rain. > > I follow this interesting artist on Facebook who travels in a micro > Gypsy caravan wagon, powered by bicycle. Was so surprised to see he had > visited with Leonard Cohen's actual Suzanne in Venice the other day! > She also lives in a Gypsy wagon. Here is a link to his visit with her > and a photo. > http://theaimlesslywanderingartist.blogspot.com/2013/10/a-day-in-venice.html > > Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:33:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: My idea for a gift to Joni on her 70th birthday Yes! You're right! She can just chat away and the computer will convert it to type. >________________________________ > From: shadows and light >To: Catherine McKay >Cc: Michael Paz ; Susan E. McNamara ; "joni@smoe.org" >Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 6:17:44 PM >Subject: Re: My idea for a gift to Joni on her 70th birthday > > >didn't she say she had one now and is working on her memoirs using >dragonspeak? perhaps she needs one for each house...hahaha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 19:48:58 -0700 From: Laurie Antonioli Subject: Re: joni tributes Here's the press release that went out a couple days ago: http://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/10/prweb11249327.htm Just keeping with the "baby boomer" thing and how much we love the music of our generation, it doesn't say this in the press release, but were it not for Joni (and Neil Young) I would not have had a life in music. Those two inspired me, and then the jazz thing kicked in when I was about 16 or 17, but prior to that, I was in love with Neil and Joni and couldn't get enough. I was obsessed with them. Revisiting Joni's music has been very intense, actually, since I have been a hard core jazz musician for 35 years. The music of Joni and Neil have been running underneath all that jazz and when it resurfaced it was like an old friend you hadn't seen in a long time -- and the conversation continued right where you left off. Laurie On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Dave Blackburn wrote: > Of course, Lesli. By compositions I meant words and music. I think those > may endure longer than Joni as a singer or guitarist in the cultural memory > (what little we have anymore!) > > And Laurie, many thanks for checking out our Safaris to the Heart CD. Half > of it was recorded live at SoCal JoniFest 2009. > > On Oct 25, 2013, at 2:48 PM, shadows and light > wrote: > > > i agree that her compositions will stand the test of time. but i believe > > her lyrics will hold their own too. vivid snapshots, social history, > much > > like dickens' work they reveal the social mores of these changing times. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:21:40 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: joni tributes Of course, Lesli. By compositions I meant words and music. I think those may endure longer than Joni as a singer or guitarist in the cultural memory (what little we have anymore!) And Laurie, many thanks for checking out our Safaris to the Heart CD. Half of it was recorded live at SoCal JoniFest 2009. On Oct 25, 2013, at 2:48 PM, shadows and light wrote: > i agree that her compositions will stand the test of time. but i believe > her lyrics will hold their own too. vivid snapshots, social history, much > like dickens' work they reveal the social mores of these changing times. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:05:46 -0700 From: Laurie Antonioli Subject: Re: joni tributes My album is not using the word "tribute" for the reasons you just said. It's "Songs of Shadow, Songs of Light - The Music of Joni Mitchell" "Tribute" *does* bring to mind something corny. My band is the "American Dreams Band" and we do mostly original type music, or highly rearranged standards. Doing this Joni album is a first for us taking on one composer. Doubt we'll ever do a "one composer" CD after this, but, it's so compelling to do all her music, it evolved and became something we had to do. It was an organic process. I do not, however, consider myself unique in coming up with this idea. Just bought your beautiful record, Dave! Laurie On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 2:48 PM, shadows and light wrote: > dave said: "Yes, absolutely agreed. I think she'll ultimately be > remembered as a composer first and foremost, and will be one of the few > whose work will resonate for many future generations." > > does tribute band only apply to the living?? tribute to Caesar? > > i agree that her compositions will stand the test of time. but i believe > her lyrics will hold their own too. vivid snapshots, social history, much > like dickens' work they reveal the social mores of these changing times. > > and i think dave's perception of the the timeline is correct. i remember > the first time i heard david lahm on kjazz. i pulled my car over on pchand just listened > > that said, les how can we access the jmdl archives these days? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 14:33:11 -0700 From: kbhla@fastmail.fm Subject: Gordon, Joni and Suzanne I was always as nuts about Gordon Lightfoot as Joni in the early days. The Joni songs that I've long thought were most like Gordon songs are Urge for Going and Eastern Rain. I follow this interesting artist on Facebook who travels in a micro Gypsy caravan wagon, powered by bicycle. Was so surprised to see he had visited with Leonard Cohen's actual Suzanne in Venice the other day! She also lives in a Gypsy wagon. Here is a link to his visit with her and a photo. http://theaimlesslywanderingartist.blogspot.com/2013/10/a-day-in-venice.html Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 12:59:51 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1430 Laurie, your baby boomer point makes good sense. There are "tribute" shows and albums coming thick and fast to almost every major act from the 60s and 70s. In San Diego alone we have The Steely Damned, a Beatles band that performs entire albums with orchestra, a Pink Floyd band etc etc. We're a supposedly affluent demographic with ongoing fondness for the music of our youth, and it happens to be music that is reproduceable by a band. Once music became so programmed in the 80s it became much harder to pull off live. I don't agree with your timeline however. Herbie's Joni project was by no means the first. Bob Muller could give you accurate info, but from within the JMDL alone Big Yellow Taxi recorded three Joni covers CDs, David Lahm has made jazz piano arrangements of her music and Mutts of the Planet have been performing Joni music exclusively for the last 8 years. The TNT tribute extravaganza to her was from 2000. On Oct 25, 2013, at 12:22 PM, Laurie Antonioli wrote: > One thing I've noticed re: Joni - I'm not sure it has to do with her > turning 70, I think not, but, there has been a huge number of people doing > "Joni projects" in the last year or two (starting with Herbie Hancock's > record...) - I am doing one and have had this in the works for a long time, > only to find that there are numerous others doing the same thing. I think > that it's a kind of new interest in her, much by the "baby boomer" > generation. If it's a baby boomer musician, they, like me, have finally > come around to acknowledging the important impact she has had on our > musical lives. It's undeniable. She changed the world of music and > musicians with her work. And now, there's a lot going on with regard to > Joni. In the Bay Area, there was a beautiful production of "Blue" with a > different artist doing one song each from the record. It was really > incredible. My favorite was the Balkan Choir "Kitka" doing Blue - here's > the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVqft_u3iYA > one of the finest things I've ever heard. I had goosebumps throughout as > I'm from the Balkan region and to hear these harmonies just brought me to > my knees. > > > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:50 AM, JMDL Digest wrote: > >> >> JMDL Digest Friday, October 25 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 1430 >> >> >> >> ========== >> >> TOPICS and authors in this Digest: >> -------- >> The bhootsb [Steve Dulson < >> tinkersown@ca.rr.com>] >> Joni's birthday ["Susan E. McNamara" < >> sem8@cornell.edu>] >> My idea for a gift to Joni on her 70th birthday ["Susan E. McNamara" >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 11:11:27 -0400 >> From: Steve Dulson >> Subject: The bhootsb >> >> SueNac wrote: >> >>> he would sit in on b hootsb with Ian and Sylvia and Gordon Lightfoot in >> Toronto >> >> Sue, I would play bhootsb with you anytime, whatever the heck it is! :) >> >> *************************************************** >> Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA >> FAR-West (Folk Alliance Region - West) >> tinkersown@ca.rr.com www.far-west.org >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 13:45:53 +0000 >> From: "Susan E. McNamara" >> Subject: Joni's birthday >> >> Is the JMDL doing anything for Joni's birthday this year? A Card, or >> something? Since it's a milestone year, I was just wondering. >> >> Susan Tierney McNamara >> email: sem8@cornell.edu >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 17:49:18 +0000 >> From: "Susan E. McNamara" >> Subject: My idea for a gift to Joni on her 70th birthday >> >> I just talked to Les and he said if I coordinated this he could help get >> it to >> Joni. Here's my idea: >> >> I would love to send her a card with an insert that chronicles all the Joni >> Tributes that have happened in the last year, and tell her how much her >> music >> is appreciated by all ages, all over the world. I'm sure the website and >> JMDL >> archives can give me a comprehensive list with some other research done on >> the >> web. Plus we can add Bob's numbers on the Cover front. I guess I was >> thinking about how amazed I am that lowly Ithaca is already planning their >> 5th >> annual Joni Tribute and the enthusiasm has not waned one iota. I think she >> needs to know this as she enters her twilight years - that she is not by >> any >> stretch of the imagination forgotten, and her music is not only being >> played >> by listeners but played actually by musicians, too. I'm sure she has an >> idea >> that this is true, but wouldn't it be cool to have it in one place where >> she >> can actually hold it and look at it? >> >> What do you think? I'm open to other ideas too but we should probably get >> a >> move on ... November 7 is exactly 13 days away ... not including today!!!! >> :) >> >> >> Susan Tierney McNamara >> email: sem8@cornell.edu >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of JMDL Digest V2013 #1430 >> ****************************** >> >> ------- >> To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. >> Unsubscribe by clicking here: >> mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe >> ------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 13:52:17 -0700 From: Corey Blake Subject: Judgment of the Moon and Stars I was happy to see For The Roses get such a good placement on that Worst to Best list. So of course I had to listen to it on my drive today and nearly lost it. There's a real sadness to those break-up songs. Anyway I was listening to the final song, and was really struck by the final lyrics: Strike every chord that you feel That broken trees And elephant ivories conceal What an amazing deconstruction of pianos that really illustrates how the production of something that can create such wonderful sounds, and the industry around it, can really be destructive, even murderous. So much in those few lines both visually and contextually. - -Corey ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:06:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: joni tributes There's also an album of piano jazz Joni songs by the Rachel Z trio. I found "Big yellow taxi" on Youtube. It's hard to find her stuff, because she unfortunately uses a letter of the alphabet for her last name (which is Nicolazzo.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kzqh7Y0Lkyc You can hear samples of the other songs at http://www.allmusic.com/album/moon-at-the-window-mw0000662262 I quite like this one. >________________________________ > From: shadows and light >To: JMDL ; Laurie Antonioli ; Dave Blackburn ; Les Irvin >Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 5:48:41 PM >Subject: joni tributes > > >dave said: "Yes, absolutely agreed. I think she'll ultimately be >remembered as a composer first and foremost, and will be one of the few >whose work will resonate for many future generations." > >does tribute band only apply to the living?? tribute to Caesar? > >i agree that her compositions will stand the test of time. but i believe >her lyrics will hold their own too. vivid snapshots, social history, much >like dickens' work they reveal the social mores of these changing times. > >and i think dave's perception of the the timeline is correct. i remember >the first time i heard david lahm on kjazz. i pulled my car over on >pchand just listened > >that said, les how can we access the jmdl archives these days? ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2013 #1433 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------