From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #1431 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, October 25 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 1431 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: My idea for a gift to Joni on her 70th birthday [shadows and light ] Re: Joni's sensuality [Sally ] RE: The bhootsb ["Susan E. McNamara" ] Re: DJRD [Sally ] Stereogum finally features Joni in their Counting Down (albums from worst to best) column [Matthew Tong Subject: Re: My idea for a gift to Joni on her 70th birthday like On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Susan E. McNamara wrote: > I just talked to Les and he said if I coordinated this he could help get > it to > Joni. Here's my idea: > > I would love to send her a card with an insert that chronicles all the Joni > Tributes that have happened in the last year, and tell her how much her > music > is appreciated by all ages, all over the world. I'm sure the website and > JMDL > archives can give me a comprehensive list with some other research done on > the > web. Plus we can add Bob's numbers on the Cover front. I guess I was > thinking about how amazed I am that lowly Ithaca is already planning their > 5th > annual Joni Tribute and the enthusiasm has not waned one iota. I think she > needs to know this as she enters her twilight years - that she is not by > any > stretch of the imagination forgotten, and her music is not only being > played > by listeners but played actually by musicians, too. I'm sure she has an > idea > that this is true, but wouldn't it be cool to have it in one place where > she > can actually hold it and look at it? > > What do you think? I'm open to other ideas too but we should probably get > a > move on ... November 7 is exactly 13 days away ... not including today!!!! > :) > > > Susan Tierney McNamara > email: sem8@cornell.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 12:22:11 -0700 From: Laurie Antonioli Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1430 One thing I've noticed re: Joni - I'm not sure it has to do with her turning 70, I think not, but, there has been a huge number of people doing "Joni projects" in the last year or two (starting with Herbie Hancock's record...) - I am doing one and have had this in the works for a long time, only to find that there are numerous others doing the same thing. I think that it's a kind of new interest in her, much by the "baby boomer" generation. If it's a baby boomer musician, they, like me, have finally come around to acknowledging the important impact she has had on our musical lives. It's undeniable. She changed the world of music and musicians with her work. And now, there's a lot going on with regard to Joni. In the Bay Area, there was a beautiful production of "Blue" with a different artist doing one song each from the record. It was really incredible. My favorite was the Balkan Choir "Kitka" doing Blue - here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVqft_u3iYA one of the finest things I've ever heard. I had goosebumps throughout as I'm from the Balkan region and to hear these harmonies just brought me to my knees. On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:50 AM, JMDL Digest wrote: > > JMDL Digest Friday, October 25 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 1430 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > The bhootsb [Steve Dulson < > tinkersown@ca.rr.com>] > Joni's birthday ["Susan E. McNamara" < > sem8@cornell.edu>] > My idea for a gift to Joni on her 70th birthday ["Susan E. McNamara" > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 11:11:27 -0400 > From: Steve Dulson > Subject: The bhootsb > > SueNac wrote: > > >he would sit in on b hootsb with Ian and Sylvia and Gordon Lightfoot in > Toronto > > Sue, I would play bhootsb with you anytime, whatever the heck it is! :) > > *************************************************** > Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA > FAR-West (Folk Alliance Region - West) > tinkersown@ca.rr.com www.far-west.org > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 13:45:53 +0000 > From: "Susan E. McNamara" > Subject: Joni's birthday > > Is the JMDL doing anything for Joni's birthday this year? A Card, or > something? Since it's a milestone year, I was just wondering. > > Susan Tierney McNamara > email: sem8@cornell.edu > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 17:49:18 +0000 > From: "Susan E. McNamara" > Subject: My idea for a gift to Joni on her 70th birthday > > I just talked to Les and he said if I coordinated this he could help get > it to > Joni. Here's my idea: > > I would love to send her a card with an insert that chronicles all the Joni > Tributes that have happened in the last year, and tell her how much her > music > is appreciated by all ages, all over the world. I'm sure the website and > JMDL > archives can give me a comprehensive list with some other research done on > the > web. Plus we can add Bob's numbers on the Cover front. I guess I was > thinking about how amazed I am that lowly Ithaca is already planning their > 5th > annual Joni Tribute and the enthusiasm has not waned one iota. I think she > needs to know this as she enters her twilight years - that she is not by > any > stretch of the imagination forgotten, and her music is not only being > played > by listeners but played actually by musicians, too. I'm sure she has an > idea > that this is true, but wouldn't it be cool to have it in one place where > she > can actually hold it and look at it? > > What do you think? I'm open to other ideas too but we should probably get > a > move on ... November 7 is exactly 13 days away ... not including today!!!! > :) > > > Susan Tierney McNamara > email: sem8@cornell.edu > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2013 #1430 > ****************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 03:08:00 -0400 From: Sally Subject: Re: Joni's sensuality Hey Mark! Right! :) This got me to referencing in my mind how many times Joni has written about clothing in her songs. We know she's a fashion junkie. It immediately brought to mind: She don't like my kick pleat skirt She don't like my eyelids painted green She don't like me staying up late In my high-heeled shoes Living for that Rock'n'Roll dancing scene Seems to me she's mentioned bridal gowns more than once but I can only recall it in Song for Sharon. PeaceLove, Sally in freezing Virginia > On Oct 25, 2013, at 1:03 AM, "Mark" wrote: > > And she ends the song with: > > The streets were never really mine > Not mine, not mine these glamor gowns. > > Mark in foggy Seattle > > -----Original Message----- From: Sally > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 8:30 PM > To: Shari Eaton > Cc: jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com ; joni@smoe.org ; betsyblue82@gmail.com > Subject: Re: Joni's sensuality > > Hey folks! I'm not sure that's joni! :0 I never noticed it either but I'm doubtful! Could be I guess. What I'm wondering now is, who is the kid? Can't imagine I don't know that...but, I don't! > As far as how she dresses, I'm not sure if I think it's "modest". I think she wears a lot of interesting stuff...it's artsy in my opinion. She's a very stylish girl. Some of my favorite lines of hers which most certainly is autobiographical and so incredibly descriptive and visual: > > But even on the scuffle > The cleaner's press was in my jeans > And any eye for detail > Caught a little lace along the seams > > >> On Oct 24, 2013, at 7:43 PM, Shari Eaton wrote: >> >> I never noticed that before! Is it verifiably her? Looks like it could be a >> greek statuette or something. >> >> >>> On Oct 24, 2013, at 3:59 PM, jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com wrote: >>> >>> I hope ya'll appreciate how much time it took to trim my quote on the >> smartphone. >>> >>> Anyway, by my count, she was nude in two albums. Everyone remembers the >> seaside, backside shot on the inside of "For The Roses" but everyone forgets >> the full, frontal nudity in black and white, smack dab on the cover of Don >> Juan's Reckless Daughter. How could you miss it? It is even in front of a >> kid, for crying out loud. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>>> She was also mentioned in an article, along with a number of other >> singers, >>>> as an example of dressing modestly. Interesting, since she did appear nude >>>> in one album and in a bikini in another. It is all about context. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:27:47 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: The bhootsb HAHAHA! That was supposed to be hoots but since I put it in quotes smoe.org messed with it. She was referring to hootenannies ... you know what they are, right Steve!!!! Miss our little home in New Orleans!!! :-) Susan Tierney McNamara email:B sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Steve Dulson Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 11:11 AM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: The bhootsb SueNac wrote: >he would sit in on bhootsb with Ian and Sylvia and Gordon Lightfoot in Toronto Sue, I would play bhootsb with you anytime, whatever the heck it is! :) *************************************************** Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA FAR-West (Folk Alliance Region - West) tinkersown@ca.rr.com www.far-west.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 03:01:53 -0400 From: Sally Subject: Re: DJRD Hey Jim (and all), I'm not sure why or if DJRD is an outcast. I think that trilogy of records (HOSL/Hejira/DJRD) each stand alone but they also constitute a sort of whole...that flows together. The songs seem to build in complexity in a way, that sort of escalates and climaxes with DJRD. Don't you think that the structure of the songs becomes more complicated and maybe less accessible in some ways? Don't get me wrong because I've always picked Hejira as my favorite album but DJRD runs a very close second. I think if you compare any of the three to the previous record (Court&Spark) it's really apples and oranges. She seemed to say fuck it and went in a direction that pleased her at that point. I think she grew so much over the course of those records and it gave her the guts to make the Mingus record. I love DJRD! The title track alone is a masterpiece! :D Thanks for starting this dialogue. Good thoughts! > To me, this is similar to the themes that people loved more on Hejira and THOSL. Why is DJRD an outcast? > > Jim > On Oct 25, 2013, at 1:51 AM, Shari Eaton wrote: > > I've been listening to DJRD this week and as silly as it sounds I finally heard her say Myrtle's lawn. I backed it up and listened to it in a completely different way .. Recognizing that she was on vacation somewhere and then traveled back home with the guy she was with at the time. It's really difficult for me to remain focused on her story through Dreamland. All the rich imagery at the start send my mind adrift every time. Same with Otis & Marlena. I've been studying those two this week. It's a cheap pink rosC) keeps playing in my head. It's kind of hard to say! > > Lots of Joni, > - Shari > >> On Oct 24, 2013, at 10:31 PM, jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com wrote: >> >> See, I love this record. I love my country too but there are a LOT of reasons to be disillusioned with the USA. Joni explored this duality for a long time, (which is reflected in her houses too: which this week? BC or LA?) >> >> To me, this is similar to the themes that people loved more on Hejira and THOSL. Why is DJRD an outcast? >> >> Jim >> Now playing in my head: Sting going, "one world is enough >> For all of us" >> >> >>> According to Joni, most reviews of the album missed its point: "Basically it >>> has to do with turning your back on America and heading into the Third >>> World...at the time Muslims were messing around in Washington, there were >>> radical tensions. I was disillusioned. The songs on the album have a lot of >>> ethnic references and there's a certain sentimentality for the North American >>> Indian." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 10:48:34 -0700 From: Matthew Tong Subject: Stereogum finally features Joni in their Counting Down (albums from worst to best) column http://www.stereogum.com/1482732/joni-mitchell-albums-from-worst-to-best/list/ I have just rejoined the JMDL after being a long time lurker in the 2000s, so I don't know if this has been talked about already. Blue should have easily been #1, but that's just my opinion. 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