From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #1396 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, October 16 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 1396 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: I hate Joni Mitchell [Victor ] Re: I hate Joni Mitchell [Corey Blake ] Re: I hate Joni Mitchell [Michael Paz ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 20:10:43 -0400 From: Victor Subject: Re: I hate Joni Mitchell My thoughts exactly. No one is responsible for anyone else's behavior. This story sounds a little far-fetched... Victor in Atlanta NP: Red Sox vs. Tigers Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 16, 2013, at 7:50 PM, Corey Blake wrote: > > Sounds pretty absurd but pretending for a moment that the events are true, no one (not even Joni) can force someone to sleep with them. Either he chose to be unfaithful or he was raped. From the telling, it sounds like the former. Women aren't mind-controllers. Unless Jaco had some king of mental illness, he was able to make decisions. They might have been self-destructive decisions, but they were his. That doesn't let Joni off the hook but he's not a blameless victim. I don't know Jaco's story at all but the whole thing sounds highly dubious. > > -Corey > >> On Oct 16, 2013, at 4:27 PM, Shari Eaton wrote: >> >> Copy/pasted from amazon customer reviews. Interesting take on her relationship with Jaco. Anyone know if this is utter rubbish or not? >> >> "I am a big Jaco Pastorius fan (self-proclaimed best bass player in the world). That is why I hate this weirdo/homewrecker. Joni Mitchell found out about Jaco and immediately recruited him for he was the most innovative and creative bass player around. Jaco at this point was as happy as can be with his wife Tracy and children. When Joni found Jaco, Jaco was big on life and a strict musician who had a very occasional drink. Joni saw his raw talent, skill, and feel as an oppurtunity to offer him a large sum of money to impregnate her in order to conceive a musically talented child. Jaco denied her proposal, but she still managed to reel him in and sleep with her. She knew very well that Jaco was happily married with kids (homewrecker), but she went for it anyway and unfortunately succeeded. After a while, Jaco's wife Tracy caught on and dropped Jaco like a bad habit. From this point on Jaco became very depressed which eventually drove him to alcoholism. The alcoholism eventu! > al! >> ly led to the cocaine addiction and meltdown of his career. Jaco was one of the great ones. He had so much music left in him, but his life took a sudden downward spiral from his affair on which eventually led to his tragic death (murder). He was never the same after that and neither was his music. Jaco was angry and self-destructive after he lost his family. He would get wasted and pick fights with the biggest guy he could find. He fell apart because of Joni Mitchell's decision to break up his life (his love and his children). Therefore, I hereby state that I hope Joni dies sooner than later, for she ruined a huge piece of music history and the biggest piece of electric bass history yet. She ruined the great Jaco Pastorius. What a c_nt." >> >> - Shari ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 16:50:17 -0700 From: Corey Blake Subject: Re: I hate Joni Mitchell Sounds pretty absurd but pretending for a moment that the events are true, no one (not even Joni) can force someone to sleep with them. Either he chose to be unfaithful or he was raped. From the telling, it sounds like the former. Women aren't mind-controllers. Unless Jaco had some king of mental illness, he was able to make decisions. They might have been self-destructive decisions, but they were his. That doesn't let Joni off the hook but he's not a blameless victim. I don't know Jaco's story at all but the whole thing sounds highly dubious. - -Corey On Oct 16, 2013, at 4:27 PM, Shari Eaton wrote: > Copy/pasted from amazon customer reviews. Interesting take on her relationship with Jaco. Anyone know if this is utter rubbish or not? > > "I am a big Jaco Pastorius fan (self-proclaimed best bass player in the world). That is why I hate this weirdo/homewrecker. Joni Mitchell found out about Jaco and immediately recruited him for he was the most innovative and creative bass player around. Jaco at this point was as happy as can be with his wife Tracy and children. When Joni found Jaco, Jaco was big on life and a strict musician who had a very occasional drink. Joni saw his raw talent, skill, and feel as an oppurtunity to offer him a large sum of money to impregnate her in order to conceive a musically talented child. Jaco denied her proposal, but she still managed to reel him in and sleep with her. She knew very well that Jaco was happily married with kids (homewrecker), but she went for it anyway and unfortunately succeeded. After a while, Jaco's wife Tracy caught on and dropped Jaco like a bad habit. From this point on Jaco became very depressed which eventually drove him to alcoholism. The alcoholism eventual! > ly led to the cocaine addiction and meltdown of his career. Jaco was one of the great ones. He had so much music left in him, but his life took a sudden downward spiral from his affair on which eventually led to his tragic death (murder). He was never the same after that and neither was his music. Jaco was angry and self-destructive after he lost his family. He would get wasted and pick fights with the biggest guy he could find. He fell apart because of Joni Mitchell's decision to break up his life (his love and his children). Therefore, I hereby state that I hope Joni dies sooner than later, for she ruined a huge piece of music history and the biggest piece of electric bass history yet. She ruined the great Jaco Pastorius. What a c_nt." > > - Shari ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 19:39:21 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: I hate Joni Mitchell I respectfully request that this crap be expunged from the archive. No place for this kinda crap On Oct 16, 2013, at 6:27 PM, Shari Eaton wrote: Copy/pasted from amazon customer reviews. Interesting take on her relationship with Jaco. Anyone know if this is utter rubbish or not? "I am a big Jaco Pastorius fan (self-proclaimed best bass player in the world). That is why I hate this weirdo/homewrecker. Joni Mitchell found out about Jaco and immediately recruited him for he was the most innovative and creative bass player around. Jaco at this point was as happy as can be with his wife Tracy and children. When Joni found Jaco, Jaco was big on life and a strict musician who had a very occasional drink. Joni saw his raw talent, skill, and feel as an oppurtunity to offer him a large sum of money to impregnate her in order to conceive a musically talented child. Jaco denied her proposal, but she still managed to reel him in and sleep with her. She knew very well that Jaco was happily married with kids (homewrecker), but she went for it anyway and unfortunately succeeded. After a while, Jaco's wife Tracy caught on and dropped Jaco like a bad habit. From this point on Jaco became very depressed which eventually drove him to alcoholism. The alcoholism eventual! ly led to the cocaine addiction and meltdown of his career. Jaco was one of the great ones. He had so much music left in him, but his life took a sudden downward spiral from his affair on which eventually led to his tragic death (murder). He was never the same after that and neither was his music. Jaco was angry and self-destructive after he lost his family. He would get wasted and pick fights with the biggest guy he could find. He fell apart because of Joni Mitchell's decision to break up his life (his love and his children). Therefore, I hereby state that I hope Joni dies sooner than later, for she ruined a huge piece of music history and the biggest piece of electric bass history yet. She ruined the great Jaco Pastorius. What a c_nt." - - Shari ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2013 #1396 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------