From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #1391 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, October 15 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 1391 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1383 [carmel rotem ] Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1383 [carmel rotem ] re: Joni Guitar/strings ["Pat Boland" ] Pazfest ["Cassy" ] Re: Joni and the loss of her Martin D-28 ["Pat Boland" ] Re: Columbus Day? [Debra Pease ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 11:04:51 -0700 (PDT) From: carmel rotem Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1383 there's Robert Wyatt, who fell from the 4th floor window and became paralyzed from the waist down. he had to stop drumming moved to play the keyboard, and later released his best solo album (to my opinion) - Rock Bottom. and of course many musicians are/were suffering from depression, first one that comes to my mind is Nick Drake (which music was very influenced by his depression). Carmel. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 4:24 AM, JMDL Digest wrote: JMDL Digest Monday, October 14 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 1383 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- Illness as fodder, njc I suppose [jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com] - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 21:20:47 -0400 From: jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com Subject: Illness as fodder, njc I suppose Yes. I'm sure that someone has already mentioned the other Canadian polio survivor, Neil Young. Nash had both legs broken. Crosby nearly killed himself with drugs, and then nearly died from a failed liver(?). Levon Helm nearly died but came back and recorded a Grammy-winning album, only to die soon after. James Taylor is a case unto himself. Bob Dylan famously had a bad motorcycle accident that marked a turning point, in an odyssey full of turning points. Bryan Thomas is doing alright, even though he's too big for schenectady. Warren Zevon and Sir George Harrison made music even when disease slowly consumed them. Shawn Colvin has been writing in spite of debilitating depression for years. "And you know there may be more." There is a pretty cool book called "Illness As Metaphor" where Susan Sontag explores the topic in depth. Jim do you know of any other singer/songwriters who > have battled illness while creating musical brilliance during their > careers? > > Ange - ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2013 #1383 ****************************** - ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe - ------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 11:04:51 -0700 (PDT) From: carmel rotem Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1383 there's Robert Wyatt, who fell from the 4th floor window and became paralyzed from the waist down. he had to stop drumming moved to play the keyboard, and later released his best solo album (to my opinion) - Rock Bottom. and of course many musicians are/were suffering from depression, first one that comes to my mind is Nick Drake (which music was very influenced by his depression). Carmel. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 4:24 AM, JMDL Digest wrote: JMDL Digest Monday, October 14 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 1383 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- Illness as fodder, njc I suppose [jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com] - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 21:20:47 -0400 From: jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com Subject: Illness as fodder, njc I suppose Yes. I'm sure that someone has already mentioned the other Canadian polio survivor, Neil Young. Nash had both legs broken. Crosby nearly killed himself with drugs, and then nearly died from a failed liver(?). Levon Helm nearly died but came back and recorded a Grammy-winning album, only to die soon after. James Taylor is a case unto himself. Bob Dylan famously had a bad motorcycle accident that marked a turning point, in an odyssey full of turning points. Bryan Thomas is doing alright, even though he's too big for schenectady. Warren Zevon and Sir George Harrison made music even when disease slowly consumed them. Shawn Colvin has been writing in spite of debilitating depression for years. "And you know there may be more." There is a pretty cool book called "Illness As Metaphor" where Susan Sontag explores the topic in depth. Jim do you know of any other singer/songwriters who > have battled illness while creating musical brilliance during their > careers? > > Ange - ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2013 #1383 ****************************** - ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe - ------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 21:55:25 +1000 From: "Pat Boland" Subject: re: Joni Guitar/strings Just a side note: When the question was posed "Would anyone know what brand/gauge guitar strings Joni favored during for her acoustic guitar work?" I responded that I believed that Joni used DeAngelico silk and steel. I was listening to an audio clip someone posted from utube where, at the start of the live performance in a coffeehouse Joni breaks a string as she is tuning and calls out 'Does anyone happen to have a DeAngelico? ...just thought I'd throw that out there. ;) Pat ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 11:32:17 -0700 From: "Cassy" Subject: Pazfest For those who are not on Facebook, I would like to publicly thank Michael Paz for his hard work in putting this event together. Though not a financial success for the charity due to the fear-mongering surrounding Hurricane Karen it was a social success for those among us who enjoy gathering with our peers to celebrate Joni Mitchell and her music. The performances for the main event, Robin and Dave's Friday night gig and the Sunday night JMDL show were stellar and the ambiance of New Orleans just made the whole weekend one to remember. Freda's gumbo.. need I say more? The combined efforts of JMDLers to prep the ingredients and put this dinner together was the epitome of teamwork. Kris and Kevin were such excellent hosts they truly added to the event. For those of you who were unable to attend it is still possible to donate to the Ruth Paz Foundation. There have been some difficulties with the donate button on the website and Michael is working with the web host to repair it. In the meantime anyone who would like to donate can send a check made out to the Ruth Paz Foundation and mail it to me. I will forward all checks received to Michael. Be sure to include your return address and I will send you one of the fabulous 2013 Pazfest button as a thank you. Mail checks made payable to the Ruth Paz Foundation to: Cassy Horrocks 18534 7th Ave NE Shoreline WA 98155 Thank you to everyone who helped make this a weekend for the memory books. Warmly, Cassy Public Photos: Pre Pazfest: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000604561802&sk=photos&collection_ token=100000604561802%3A2305272732%3A69&set=a.702882789741867.1073741829.1000 00604561802&type=3 Pazfest: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000604561802&sk=photos&collection_ token=100000604561802%3A2305272732%3A69&set=a.705280549502091.1073741830.1000 00604561802&type=3 Post Pazfest and JMDL show: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000604561802&sk=photos&collection_ token=100000604561802%3A2305272732%3A69&set=a.706055202757959.1073741832.1000 00604561802&type=3 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 21:06:09 +1000 From: "Pat Boland" Subject: Re: Joni and the loss of her Martin D-28 In 1967 on one of the weekends when Joni played at our coffeehouse, the Folk Cellar III in Port Huron MI, she had flown in from playing a gig in Toronto and was very upset because the airline had damaged her D28 and she was without a guitar. I also had a Martin D28 which I bought from Dean Rutledge for $200. It had shaved braces from a previous owner which gave it an unusually warm, golden bass tone which suited my voice just fine. Joni must have had it in mind as here she was, to play the weekend with no guitar and she asked me right off if she could borrow mine. Of course I said yes as she knew I would and that weekend Joni used my D28 to perform. She said my guitar was 'beautiful' and was very thankful. List-member Brian S. Moss, the manager, was there at the time and I'm sure he would remember this event. Joni also let me play her guitar after that. It had a very solid, clean sound. Regards, Pat Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 16:22:50 -0400 From: simon@icu.com Subject: Re: Joni and the loss of her Martin D-28 On Oct 14, 2013, at 3:34 PM, Susan E. McNamara wrote: > Great stuff on Joni's guitars, Simon. Thanks. What is the definitive story of what happened > to Joni's Martin? I've heard several versions, but I'm not sure which one is right. I am pretty > sure it was a Martin D-25 that was given to her by a soldier in 1967, right? > Boy, I would love me that guitar!!! :-) Sue, The following, from ACOUSTIC GUITAR Magazine - Aug. 1996, is the true story, confirmed by Joel Bernstein. Joni Mitchell has never quite gotten over the first guitar she loved and lost: a 1956 Martin D-28 she got circa 1966 from a marine captain stationed at Fort Bragg, North Carolina. The guitar had accompanied him to Vietnam and was in his tent when it was hit with shrapnel. "There were two instruments and all this captain's stuff in there," Mitchell says. "When they cleared the wreckage, all that survived was this guitar. I don't know whether the explosion did something to the modules in the wood, but that guitar was a trooper, man." Mitchell played that D-28 on all her early albums. Before she recorded COURT And SPARK, it was damaged on an airline, and soon after it was stolen off a luggage carousel in Maui. Wistfully, she adds, "I've never found an acoustic that could compare with it." The sad thing is, that guitar is probably out there somewhere. Someone likely owns Joni's D-28 and doesn't have a clue to its history. Joel regrets not recording the Serial No. when he had the change. We'll never know. andmoreagain, - - - - - - - - - - simonM ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 11:20:59 -0400 From: Debra Pease Subject: Re: Columbus Day? Wow. Thanks for putting this insight together. So sad what the white man did to the native americans. On Oct 12, 2013, at 9:20 AM, simon@icu.com wrote: > October 12 > > > The DISCOVERY > > In 1492 the natives discovered they were Indians, > > they discovered they lived in America, > > they discovered they were naked, > > they discovered there was sin, > > they discovered they owed obedience to a king and a queen > > from another world and a god from some other heaven, > > and this god had invented guilt and clothing > > and had ordered burned alive all who worshipped the sun and > > the moon and the earth and the rain that moistens it. > > > > > andmoreagain, > - - - - - - - - - > simonM > > PS: Columbus, the Last! man to discover America, discovered he was lost. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2013 #1391 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------