From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #1345 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, October 5 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 1345 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: The Nash book [Ken Bausert ] Re: The Nash book [Catherine McKay ] Re: The Nash book [Catherine McKay ] It's Joni's allusions I recall. [Betsy Blue ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 11:46:55 -0400 From: Ken Bausert Subject: Re: The Nash book Yep! Will check our library to see if they have it... thanks for the suggestion. BTW, aside from learning some ugly details about WZ, it was-nevertheless-a good book. Kenny B Sent from my iPad On Oct 4, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Catherine McKay wrote: > Borrow it from the library or something - save yourself $20! Glad I didn't read the WZ one. Don't care for those wife beaters one bit! > > It also seems that Nash's book has had some pretty good reviews, so I guess it depends on whether you want good writing or gossip. Apparently it's not common to get both! > > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Ken Bausert >> To: "joni@smoe.org" >> Cc: >> Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 8:25:53 AM >> Subject: The Nash book >> >> Wow, judging by the early reviews here, the Nash book is a bomb... sorry to hear >> that 'cause I was looking forward to reading it. I probably still will but >> I'm in no hurry to do so now. He ducking out a window to avoid his fans? >> Crazy! >> >> Funny how reading musicians' bios (and autobios) can have such an effect on >> our views of them as people. When I read the Warren Zevon bio (I'll Sleep >> When I'm Dead), I was really bummed out to learn of his terrible temper and >> his often beating his wife. >> >> Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 08:03:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: The Nash book Borrow it from the library or something - save yourself $20! Glad I didn't read the WZ one. Don't care for those wife beaters one bit! It also seems that Nash's book has had some pretty good reviews, so I guess it depends on whether you want good writing or gossip. Apparently it's not common to get both! - ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ken Bausert > To: "joni@smoe.org" > Cc: > Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 8:25:53 AM > Subject: The Nash book > > Wow, judging by the early reviews here, the Nash book is a bomb... sorry to hear > that 'cause I was looking forward to reading it. I probably still will but > I'm in no hurry to do so now. He ducking out a window to avoid his fans? > Crazy! > > Funny how reading musicians' bios (and autobios) can have such an effect on > our views of them as people. When I read the Warren Zevon bio (I'll Sleep > When I'm Dead), I was really bummed out to learn of his terrible temper and > his often beating his wife. > > Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 15:37:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: The Nash book Yeah, but he got the title of her first album wrong, goshdarnit. He called it "Song for a seagull." Maybe he was paid by the word, so he just put in a variation on the F word wherever it seemed to fit. And yeah, I shouldn't be surprised at rock stars behaving like kids, and I don't know why I thought Nash might be a bit better than that. Maybe it's his silver hair now, but it wasn't always thus. - ----- Original Message ----- > From: Randy Remote > To: Joni > Cc: > Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 4:03:14 PM > Subject: Re: The Nash book > > I must say I'm about half way through and enjoying it immensely. > His was truly a rags to riches story. > He is appropriately in awe of Joni's genius. I'd always > thought Lady of The Island was about Joan > but it isn't, although he finished the song after picking up one > of Joni's open-tuned guitars. I like the little tidbits like when Jerry > Garcia played the pedal steel part for "Teach Your Children", and > after the first try wanted to do another take. Nash said "no way, we're > keeping that one". > That rock stars are just overgrown teenagers shouldn't come as > much of a surprise. I think the tone is conversational and easy to > read, and a rare perspective from one who knew all these Beatles and > Jimis and Stones, etc. Sometimes you do feel embarrassed for his > lack of self awareness, but it's honest anyway. > If you took out all variations of his favorite word (starts with F), the > book would be 20 pages shorter. FWIW. > RR ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 19:01:11 -0700 From: Betsy Blue Subject: It's Joni's allusions I recall. The old song Doctor, Lawyer, Indian Chief just came to my attention. This phrase is included in Fiction. As someone who is not well read or versed in film, and some 40 years behind (ahead?) in pop culture, I am continually amazed at the quotes Joni drops into her lyrics. I've heard so many people attribute "constant as [the] northern star" to Joni that I wonder if she tried to make amends in Talk to Me. Perhaps because Shakespeare was important to Myrtle, who was present with Joni through the years, as mother's tend to be with daughters. "Immature poets imitate; mature poets steal; bad poets deface what they take, and good poets make it into something better, or at least something different. The good poet welds his theft into a whole of feeling which is unique, utterly different from that from which it was torn; the bad poet throws it into something which has no cohesion. A good poet will usually borrow from authors remote in time, or alien in language, or diverse in interest." - -T. S. Eliot Have a wonderful weekend, all! Betsy ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2013 #1345 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------