From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #1335 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, September 27 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 1335 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni-related Books [Bob Muller ] Joni-related Books [Ken Bausert ] Re: Joni-related Books [Ken Bausert ] Re: New Video added to Library: The Dawntreader [Catherine McKay ] Re: New Video added to Library: Day After Day ["Mark" ] Re: 2nd Fret Sets (2 Disc Set) DownLoad Now [Shari Eaton ] How Could Joni Kill The Movie? [simon@icu.com] guitar strings and walecki's store [shadows and light Subject: Re: Joni-related Books Good point, Ken. I've read them all and found something of value in all of them. And I even get a mention in the footnotes of the O'Brien book. And this time next week I'll be at Pazfest! Bob Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 27, 2013, at 9:41 AM, Ken Bausert wrote: > > I've read a lot of bios (and autobios) of musicians and, while I wouldn't call "Girls like us" a great book, I also wouldn't call it crap; I enjoyed it. Similarly, I wasn't as impressed with "Will you take me as I am" because many of the facts have been written about before and I felt it was too "wordy" and drawn out (too analytical) often going off on tangents. Maybe I just don't like the author's style. > > I DID love the "Woman of heart & mind" DVD. > > Ultimately, of course, if someone is really a fan and looking for the best books on Joni, they'll have to go through some and decide for him/herself. > > > Kenny B > > > > Sent from my iPad ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 09:41:44 -0400 From: Ken Bausert Subject: Joni-related Books I've read a lot of bios (and autobios) of musicians and, while I wouldn't call "Girls like us" a great book, I also wouldn't call it crap; I enjoyed it. Similarly, I wasn't as impressed with "Will you take me as I am" because many of the facts have been written about before and I felt it was too "wordy" and drawn out (too analytical) often going off on tangents. Maybe I just don't like the author's style. I DID love the "Woman of heart & mind" DVD. Ultimately, of course, if someone is really a fan and looking for the best books on Joni, they'll have to go through some and decide for him/herself. Kenny B Sent from my iPad ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 10:54:57 -0400 From: Ken Bausert Subject: Re: Joni-related Books Ah! I thought PazFest was THIS week. Have fun; maybe one day I'll make to that one. Kenny B Sent from my iPad On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:08 AM, Bob Muller wrote: > Good point, Ken. I've read them all and found something of value in all of them. And I even get a mention in the footnotes of the O'Brien book. > > And this time next week I'll be at Pazfest! > > Bob > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 27, 2013, at 9:41 AM, Ken Bausert wrote: >> >> I've read a lot of bios (and autobios) of musicians and, while I wouldn't call "Girls like us" a great book, I also wouldn't call it crap; I enjoyed it. Similarly, I wasn't as impressed with "Will you take me as I am" because many of the facts have been written about before and I felt it was too "wordy" and drawn out (too analytical) often going off on tangents. Maybe I just don't like the author's style. >> >> I DID love the "Woman of heart & mind" DVD. >> >> Ultimately, of course, if someone is really a fan and looking for the best books on Joni, they'll have to go through some and decide for him/herself. >> >> >> Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 13:30:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: New Video added to Library: The Dawntreader Wow. The video quality on this is impressive. >________________________________ > From: "est86mlm@ameritech.net" >To: joni@smoe.org >Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 2:50:31 PM >Subject: New Video added to Library: The Dawntreader > > >Title: The Dawntreader CBC-TV The Way It Is >1967-- > >Joni appearing on the CBC-TV program The Way It Is. > >http://jonimitchell.com/library/video.cfm?id=363 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 00:17:18 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: Re: New Video added to Library: The Dawntreader Joni said in a performance before she sang "That's the Way It Is" that the show was dreadful. She hated the arrangements but actually felt sorry for the arranger having to deal with her weird tunings. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 27, 2013, at 5:38 PM, "Catherine McKay" wrote: > Yeah, kind of weird, but maybe not for the time. > > > > > >> ________________________________ >> From: Dave Blackburn >> To: Catherine McKay >> Cc: "est86mlm@ameritech.net" ; "joni@smoe.org" >> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 4:52:40 PM >> Subject: Re: New Video added to Library: The Dawntreader >> >> >> Yes it is. But the hare krishna flute, bongos and strings not so much! >> >> >> On Sep 27, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: >> >>> Wow. The video quality on this is impressive. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 11:10:20 -0400 From: simon@icu.com Subject: Hearts of the Dulcimer Laura posted > Subject: New Video added to Library: Joni & Joellen Lapidus > > Title: Joni & Joellen Lapidus HEARTS OF THE DULCIMER 2013 > > Joni talks about the dulcimer made for her by Joellen Lapidus in a 1970 clip for "In Concert BBC Television Theatre," > and titled JONI MITCHELL SINGS JONI MITCHELL. > > This video is an excerpt from the feature-length documentary film HEARTS OF THE DULCIMER > showcasing the unique dulcimers Joellen Lapidus has built. > > http://jonimitchell.com/library/video.cfm?id=366 This is actually 1-of-2 Excerpts available on the Vimeo WebSite. Excerpt #1: Early Dulcimer History Excerpt #2: Joellen's Dulcimers There is also a Trailer for the film. Hearts of the Dulcimer - Official Trailer (2013) Additional information is available, check out the following: Official WebSite FaceBook Page Mailing List This looks to be a truly interesting film. Especially for those interested in early American (so called 'Roots') Music. I look forward to seeing it. However, I would point out that the story of the dulcimer is certainly a larger story than Joni Mitchell and her -4- dulcimer songs. - - - - - - I'm not sure when I first came across the recordings of Richard & Mimi Farina, but ... The first time I remember seeing a Dulcimer being played was in the hands of Brian Jones. There a Video you can check out @ It's Brian - the song "Lady Jane" - and a little rock 'n' roll band he started called The Rolling Stones. andmoreagain, - - - - - - - - - - simonM PS: there another interesting Video of Brian Jones playing Marimba with The Rolling Stones. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 14:35:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: New Video added to Library: The Dawntreader Yeah, kind of weird, but maybe not for the time. >________________________________ > From: Dave Blackburn >To: Catherine McKay >Cc: "est86mlm@ameritech.net" ; "joni@smoe.org" >Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 4:52:40 PM >Subject: Re: New Video added to Library: The Dawntreader > > >Yes it is. But the hare krishna flute, bongos and strings not so much! > > >On Sep 27, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: > >> Wow. The video quality on this is impressive. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 13:52:40 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: New Video added to Library: The Dawntreader Yes it is. But the hare krishna flute, bongos and strings not so much! On Sep 27, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: > Wow. The video quality on this is impressive. > > > > > >> ________________________________ >> From: "est86mlm@ameritech.net" >> To: joni@smoe.org >> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 2:50:31 PM >> Subject: New Video added to Library: The Dawntreader >> >> >> Title: The Dawntreader CBC-TV The Way It Is >> 1967-- >> >> Joni appearing on the CBC-TV program The Way It Is. >> >> http://jonimitchell.com/library/video.cfm?id=363 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 15:28:06 -0400 From: Richard Flynn Subject: Re: book or bio I agree. I really like Michelle's book. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID "Susan E. McNamara" wrote: >I enjoyed Michelle Mercer's "Will You Take Me As I Am" because she interviewed Joni directly and I liked her writing style. > >Susan Tierney McNamara >email: sem8@cornell.edu > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of LC Stanley >Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 8:07 AM >To: laurieantonioli@gmail.com >Cc: Joni List >Subject: RE: book or bio > >Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 21:57:34 -0700 >From: Laurie Antonioli > >Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1332 > >Question to >this collection of Joni experts: Which book or bio on Joni do you think is the "best?" > >Thanks for your input!! > >Laurie Antonioli > > > > >Hi Laurie! > >I like >this DVD the best: > > >Joni Mitchell - Woman of Heart and Mind: A Life Story >(2003) > >People have said that Joni is writing memoirs so I'm waiting for that, but this DVD is the closest thing to an autobiography so far to my knowledge. >I have this book: > >Joni Mitchell: Shadows and Light Paperback by Karen O'Brien > >I haven't been able to plow through it. I don't like her style of writing. > >Love, >Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 18:28:24 -0700 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: New Video added to Library: Day After Day I wonder if the song Joni said she wrote for Peter Elbling could possibly be 'The Rambler Rover Song'? The song is in the guitar transcriptions section of JoniMitchell.com but it is listed as author unknown, arranged by Joni Mitchell. Does anybody have any information about the provenance of this song? Mark in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: est86mlm@ameritech.net Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 1:11 AM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: New Video added to Library: Day After Day Title: Day After Day 1965-- Audio clip of Joni singing Day After Day.

In a 1968 Broadside Magazine interview Joni says of this song:

I bought myself a ukulele and I plunked my way through most of the summer. Then I went off to art college and started playing in a club there with Peter Albling, who was the headliner. He and I became the house acts; he's Mycroft of the Times Square Two now. For both of us it was our first professional gig in Calgary, Alberta......

< I wrote one song in Calgary. I don't remember what it was about. I wrote it for Peter. I don't remember how it went and I am sure he doesn't either. The next one I wrote was Day After Day. I wrote it going out to the Mariposa Folk Festival. That was in August, 1964. http://jonimitchell.com/library/video.cfm?id=362 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 15:22:48 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: book or bio I enjoyed Michelle Mercer's "Will You Take Me As I Am" because she interviewed Joni directly and I liked her writing style. Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of LC Stanley Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 8:07 AM To: laurieantonioli@gmail.com Cc: Joni List Subject: RE: book or bio Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 21:57:34 -0700 From: Laurie Antonioli Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1332 Question to this collection of Joni experts: Which book or bio on Joni do you think is the "best?" Thanks for your input!! Laurie Antonioli Hi Laurie! I like this DVD the best: Joni Mitchell - Woman of Heart and Mind: A Life Story (2003) People have said that Joni is writing memoirs so I'm waiting for that, but this DVD is the closest thing to an autobiography so far to my knowledge. I have this book: Joni Mitchell: Shadows and Light Paperback by Karen O'Brien I haven't been able to plow through it. I don't like her style of writing. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 14:24:30 -0700 From: Shari Eaton Subject: Re: 2nd Fret Sets (2 Disc Set) DownLoad Now Her voice cracks on Beware of the power of moons. Heartbreaking. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 23, 2013, at 10:02 PM, simon@icu.com wrote: > > Jonathan Edward Lowe inquired ... > >> Subject: Second Fret Sets >> >> Re. this discussion about rare tracks, I (like most I imagine) have the tracks >> from the first CD of this collection, but not those from the second CD- does >> anyone have that? >> >> Thanks, Jonathan > > > Jonathan > > Both Discs have been UpLoaded via Hightail. They can be DownLoaded at the following URL: > > 2nd Fret Sets.zip (Discs 1+2) > > > > > Once again it's a zip.archive with -4- items. > > 1. iTunes SetList > 2. Pictures (scans of the CD Booklet & Title Insert) > 3. 2nd Fret Sets_Disc 1 (the Music) > 4. 2nd Fret Sets_Disc 2 (the Music) > > > Bootleggers often list incomplete and/or inaccurate information on the CDs they release. > > The information I include on the iTunes SetList IS accurate. > > ENJOY! > > > > > andmoreagain, > - - - - - - - - - > simonM > > http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 17:41:59 -0700 From: Shari Eaton Subject: McGee's General Store I'm suddenly interested in Joni's dad's store but am assuming its a dead end subject. I've got a picture of her, small, in the store visiting with the natives, weaving those feathers into her hair and I want to know more. Any stories, photos or leads? Shari ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:22:33 -0400 From: simon@icu.com Subject: How Could Joni Kill The Movie? David Marine asked > You're right, I don't think there's anything that Joni could do to kill the movie, > but she could withhold the rights to use any of her music. Without any of the music, > they probably would have a really tough time getting the project greenlighted. > - - - - - The producers of any movie need Joni's permission and authorization to use her name, her likeness or her music. They also need her permission and authorization to use her Recordings, if an actress were to Lip-Sync instead of actually singing Joni's songs for the movie. THAT's how Joni Kills (ie: killed) the movie. Make sure the producers understands that No permissions or authorizations will be forthcoming. Joni actually signed a New management agreement with Elliot Roberts to protect her interests and handle any relevant negotiations. Now that the movie is a *dead* issue, that relationship has lapsed once again. - - - - - - Catherine McKay posted > At the TimesTalks event, Joni talked about having "squelched" a movie about *her* life. > She says she spoke to a producer who was apparently at the movie showing in BC last year. > She also mentioned something about not being just blonde hair and cheekbones. > This led to a Facebook discussion, with some of us thinking she may have been talking about > the "Girls Like Us" project, but it's possible she was talking about something else - that is, > if there were ever discussions about a movie being made about her. Yes, the movie in question was a film version of the "Girls Like Us" book. Interesting to note that, to Joni, a "Girls Like Us" movie is about *her* life. As we all know, in addition to Joni Mitchell, the book is also about Carole King & Carly Simon. Carly Simon ??? Talk about a false equivalency. Thank God! this movie IS a *dead* issue. Taylor Swift? as Joni Mitchell? This is someone's idea of a sad, sick joke. It's also somewhat naive and arrogant of Taylor Swift take this on as a 'first' acting role and think she could actually pull it off. Gimme A Break! Listen, the book is Crap and the movie was going to BE Crap. Period! andmoreagain, - - - - - - - - - - simonM http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 21:07:59 -0700 From: shadows and light Subject: guitar strings and walecki's store yeah, it's confusing. let me clarify - westwood music was in westwood, on westwood boulevard. it moved to 2 different locations in west los angeles and finally back to westwood. fred created a special atmosphere and he is beloved in the los angeles music community. fred sold the store a few years ago, but i think he still consults. west los angeles music is a totally different store, also originally a family busines, now owned by guitar center. sigh ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2013 #1335 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------