From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #1324 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, September 20 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 1324 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni guitar strings [shadows and light ] RE: JMDL Digest V2013 #1322 ["Stebbing, David E." Subject: Re: Joni guitar strings westwood music in west la and westwood On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Dave Blackburn wrote: > Joni claims to have weakness in her hands as a result of polio, and chose > to explore tunings rather than learn more chord shapes as the fingerings > could be easier. Therefore I would guess that she chose light guage strings > even though they flap against the frets in dropped tunings. Fred Walecki > from L.A Music in Santa Monica was her guitar tech who helped her set up > all her instruments. It was he who sold off her five Ibanez GB10s on Ebay, > at her request, and a couple of listers bought two of them. > > String technology has come a long way since Joni's career. Coated strings > which have low squeak and corrosion, baritone sets that one could mix with > standard gauges to get proper tension in her hybrid tunings (some strings > dropped low and some closer to standard) and different metal combinations. > If she were performing now she'd probably love the improvements in strings > that have come along recently, not to mention pickups and their advances. > > Dave > > > On Sep 19, 2013, at 10:23 AM, c Karma wrote: > > > Would anyone know what brand/gauge guitar strings Joni favored during > for her > > acoustic guitar work? I know that brands do update their technology, > but her > > dreadnought was at work at least through TI. I've read recommendations > for > > open tunings to wear heavier gauge but am not sure if Joni or her guitar > techs > > would have followed that. BTW, did Joni employ a regular guitar tech? > I had > > read of some association with McCabe's shop in Santa Monica, but don't > know if > > she relied on them to tend her mounts. (Not sure if that sounds > right...) > > CC ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 08:29:17 -0400 From: "Stebbing, David E." Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2013 #1322 I recommend Michael Moore's film, Bowling for Columbine, where, in the beginning of the movie, Moore is in a bank, opening a new account. The present offered by the bank for new accounts is a rifle. So there he is, sitting in a bank with a rifle in his lap, asking the bank official about the wisdom of this. I believe he also mentions, later in the film, the high number of guns per capita in Canada, and the much lower gun-related murder rate there, compared to the U.S. Like everything else here (U.S.), guns are just another commodity, meant to generate a profit. That they're also killing machines is of no interest to their sellers and manufacturers. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni-digest@smoe.org] Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 3:00 AM To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #1322 JMDL Digest Thursday, September 19 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 1322 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- Re: Another shooting rampage/ Australia, njc [Catherine McKay ] Joni mention [Shari Eaton ] - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 14:09:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Another shooting rampage/ Australia, njc I'm glad you mentioned the scary animals, Ange. That's what deters me from thinking about moving to Australia. It all sounds good until that. My daughter and I watched the end of a nature show the other night, dealing with crocodiles in Australia. Crocodiles scare the crap out of me. My Dad once told us that after WWII, he almost moved to Australia. I'm glad he didn't, or he'd never have met my mum and I wouldn't exist. But then, if I didn't exist, I wouldn't be here worrying about shooters and scary animals. I think it has come to the point where, when we hear of yet another mass shooting in the US, we think, "Oh, that's terrible. What's for dinner?" Maybe not quite that, but we can't control their gun laws from here. And I will admit that I avoid the news wherever possible because it's all bad. We have stricter gun laws here in Canada, but they are smuggled in from the US and there are fairly frequent gang-related shootings, at least here in Toronto, and also in Vancouver and Montreal. We've also had cases of mass killings, the most infamous of these probably being the Montreal Massacre, Dec 6/89, on which the film "Polytechnique" was based. (And our current PM is also a knob - I think we are in the midst of the Age of Knob, unfortunately.) - - ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ange T > To: Clint Norwood > Cc: "joni@smoe.org" > Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:08:38 PM > Subject: Re: Another shooting rampage/ Australia, njc > > I think you should all move to the Sunshine Coast of Australia...where > we have farmer's markets with fresh organic produce, a free community > music festival each month in a park by the sea, friendly happy people, > whales jumping out of the ocean....and....no guns. What do you say US-listers? > Come on down! > > Then again, by the time you get here, things could have changed. My > country has just elected a complete knob as Prime Minister (the > Australian equivalent of George W Bush) so god only knows where we're heading.... > > We also have lots of dangerous animals...like crocodiles, spiders, > snakes....AND ticks....which is why I am emailing the list at > 4am...because I found one of the little buggers on my thigh at 3am and > now my Woody Allen-gene is up Googling tick-related diseases...and > dreaming of Australian Jonifests > > Ange in Oz (tick-bitten-and-wide-awake) angetakats.com.au > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 2:29 AM, Clint Norwood wrote: > >> Hi Ange, >> I'll go ahead and agree with what you say about our sad, forlorn > country. >> Money rules EVERYTHING here so if you have money you can do anything >> you want. There is a lot of ME ME ME and not a lot of community so >> yeah people want to shoot each other. >> >> Now I'll go back to my franken-chicken tender/glob and genetically > altered >> apple lunch. >> Signed, >> INSANE AND DEPRESSED IN THE GOOD OLE' USA (Clint) >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Ange T >> *To:* "joni@smoe.org" >> *Sent:* Monday, September 16, 2013 11:53 PM >> *Subject:* Re: Another shooting rampage, njc >> >> My former boyfriend now works in Washington as a photographer ... I >> woke to his images of the shooting scene on Facebook this morning >> and thought, > "Oh, >> another shooting in the USA" and then went to have breakfast. >> >> Many Aussies (including myself) are in utter disbelief that these >> massacres are allowed to happen - time and time again - without the >> government able to implement tougher gun laws. No offence to the >> United States of America, but the situation regarding gun ownership over there is seriously insane. >> >> I'm proud to live in a country which has super-strict laws regarding >> firearms. The Australian government introduced a ban on automatic and >> semiautomatic weapons back in 1996 following a horrific massacre in >> Tasmania which left 35 dead. In the decade since the ban, the firearm >> homicide rate fell by 59 per cent. >> >> The latest shooting is very sad, but I think the true tragedy is >> that events like this seem to have no impact on US-politics. >> >> Ange in Oz (who, for some reason, felt like getting on a soapbox >> today) angetakats.com.au >> >> ------------------------------ >> > >> > Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 20:50:51 -0400 > From: >> jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com > Subject: Another shooting rampage, njc >> > > It happens so often that it barely registers anymore. Have we >> accepted > this as the new normal? >> > >> > Jim >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > End of JMDL Digest V2013 #1317 >> > ****************************** >> > >> > ------- >> > To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. >> > Unsubscribe by clicking here: >> > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe >> > ------- - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 17:10:43 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Another shooting rampage/ Australia, njc Ange, Firstly I'll say how nice it is to see you chime in more frequently. Makes the world seem like a smaller place! Trust me, there are lots of us who fantasize about leaving the oft-crazy shores of the USA for a more saner locale. Like you say there are always tradeoffs. I think I can sleep better at night knowing there are WAY too many guns in WAY too many hands here than wondering if a poisonous tick or spider is going to have his way with me in the middle of the night! The sad reality is, there's no truly safe haven here. Churches, movie theaters, homes, shopping centers, elementary schools, you name it. If you play the odds, you avoid having them around in the first place. At some point you just have to decide if you're going to live in fear or not, and living in fear is not something I'm prepared to do. On the other hand, like Michael Paz I'm always up for a spanking if I've been naughty. Bob - - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - - ------------------------------------------------------------ - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 19:55:40 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: New Library item: Joni Mitchell My opinion is, once she left Chuck, she was not a folkie anymore, and most of her songs were not folk. That's 1967, right? Plus by Clouds, her singing style was changing, and there could be no comparison to Joan Baez or any of the other folk singers. She called her singing voice in Clouds "nasal" during the TimesTalk at Luminato. It was also VERY interesting that she talked about the jazz musicians she met in Detroit. It seems she was very intrigued by the way they stole the "folk melodies and turned them into jazz riffs." She was a sponge and knew instinctively she could go wherever the muse led her. So cool. Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:29 PM To: Susan E. McNamara Cc: joni Subject: RE: New Library item: Joni Mitchell "I only hope that I never have to be categorized - just to feel that I am a musician (even though I can't read music)."> Yeah, I loved that quote too, Sue - sooooo prophetic for her to have said and for the writer to have caught back in 1966. Unfortunately, people categorize by nature I think...I love perusing ebay and seeing someone selling a copy of Mingus and describing it as "folk music". Bob - - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - - ------------------------------------------------------------ - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 20:45:29 -0400 From: jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com Subject: Making Paprika Plains Dave & Les, Thanks. You've expanded the available info on Paprika Plains. Jim L now playing: Farmer's Market at full volume >new interview up on JoniMitchell.com with Mike Gibbs, the orchestrator of Parprika Plains. http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2686 - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:55:07 -0700 From: Shari Eaton Subject: Re: New Library item: Joni Mitchell I loved reading this article. Thank you for resurfacing it. Hearing her seemingly ramble unabashedly all while hitting on ideas and philosophies quite pointedly is one of my favorite things. (Yes, I can hear every inflection of her voice while reading her interviews.) She has a way of delivering the truth without making it sound bitter or contemptuous. More so in her younger days but it's one of the qualities she possess that makes her so unique. It also makes me grin like the Cheshire Cat to know how certain she was about her vision from the start. On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > "I only hope that I never have to be categorized - just to feel that I > am a musician (even though I can't read music)."> > > Yeah, I loved that quote too, Sue - sooooo prophetic for her to have > said and for the writer to have caught back in 1966. Unfortunately, > people categorize by nature I think...I love perusing ebay and seeing > someone selling a copy of Mingus and describing it as "folk music". > > Bob > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity > to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, > business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby > notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this > message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact > the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender > and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------ - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 21:40:46 -0700 From: Shari Eaton Subject: Joni mention In light of the cornflake breakfast incident, I found this somewhat humorous. What your taste in music says about you on a first date: http://www.howaboutwe.com/date-report/1610-what-your-taste-in-music-says-abou t-you-on-a-date/ Personally, I didn't expect her to be listed and when I saw that she was I expected to read something more profound but I'll take it. Lots of Joni, Shari - ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2013 #1322 ****************************** - ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. 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