From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #1194 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, August 24 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 1194 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: New Library item: Wake up, Canada: It's okay to fail [Michael Paz ] Brian Wilson's inspiration, njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: New Library item: Wake up, Canada: It's okay to fail Dear Rick- I am sorry if my post offended you or anyone else on the list. As you probably know it was not my intention to offend or hurt anyone. As you probably also know I would come to the defense of anyone who is being discriminated against or bullied etc. It just so happened that I had a knee jerk reaction to what I had just heard on the news and to Victor's "hook in the water" and I took the bait. I had just seen that Chelsea had been sentenced and that they were going to deny her medicine that could help her which offends me. Regardless of how you may feel about what she did politically I still support her rights to be who she wants to be and that is what my part of the parody was about. Stuff like this is why we probably don't see more posts from everyone and the list is silent most of the time. I have to admit to being totally taken aback and surprised that you would even think that I meant anyone any harm other than to all out the feds which is daily routine in most of our lives lately. Once again I am sorry and also sorry we won't see you in New Orleans in October and I could hug your neck and you could have the opportunity to kick my ass! Love Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com On Aug 24, 2013, at 3:39 AM, Rick Hobbs-Seeley wrote: I'm really glad the hurtful posts about a man who has chosen to live his life in another gender have ended. What a man rightfully or wrongfully does in the course of living his life has no connection to the person he or she feels to be inside. I hope each and everyone who posted what they thought was an amusing post about the declaration of a transgendered individual to be worthy of comparison to a Joni Mitchell song or lyric take note. I doubt she would support your comment. Please, please be more sensitive to the plight of transgendered youth. We may have similarly situated kids on this list and I worry that well intentioned, yet insensitive comments or jokes may have a negative effect on their desires to move forward. With sad regrets, Coyote Rick Sent from my iPhone On Aug 23, 2013, at 4:09 PM, TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com wrote: Title: Wake up, Canada: It's okay to fail Publication: The Globe and Mail Date: 2013.8.15 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2675 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 11:32:18 -0400 From: jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com Subject: Transgender Folk, njc It is impossible to even mention the topic without being accused of being insensitive. Jim L. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 10:07:49 -0600 From: Lori Renee Fye Subject: Re: Transgender Folk, njc I disagree. It's absolutely possible to mention and discuss the topic. There are things to be learned, and that need to be learned. It's a new topic for some people, and an uncomfortable topic for some as well. There are an estimated 700,000 transgendered people in just the USA, though, and they should be embraced as part of our community (not just the JMDL, but in general). It's good to discuss it, as long as it's done respectfully. Lori On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 9:32 AM, wrote: > It is impossible to even mention the topic without being accused of being > insensitive. > > Jim L. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 12:06:25 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Brian Wilson's inspiration, njc I knew that Brian Wilson's "Pet Sounds" inspired The Beatles in general and Paul McCartney in particular to do good work on "Sargent Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band". But who inspired Brian Wilson? There was one song in particular. Marc Spitz, writing for the NY Times said in part, >The very first listen, 50 years ago this month, still haunts him. "I was driving and I had to pull over to the side of the road- it blew my mind," Wilson said, repeating a story that has become somewhat legendary. "It was a shock." Just 21 and already frustrated with his band's basic surf music, he bought the single and set about deconstructing its arrangement and production. "I started analyzing all the guitars, pianos, bass, drums and percussion," he said by phone. "Once I got all those learned, I knew how to produce records." Those records, many fans would contend, weren't half bad, but Wilson doesn't think they measure up. "I felt like I wanted to try to do something as good as that song, and I never did," he said. "I've stopped trying." In his view: "It's the greatest record ever produced. No one will ever top that one."> The song Now me: the song was "Be My Baby" by the Ronettes, produced by Phil Spector. The article, entitled "Still Tingling Spines, 50 Years Later" is on the NYTimes site. This link may not work though. No warranties are implied. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/18/movies/be-my-baby-a-hit-single-with-staying-power.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2013 #1194 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------