From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #1095 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, July 30 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 1095 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni musings [Anita G ] =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_New_Library_item=3A_Joni_Mitchell_says_Saskatoo n_d?= =?UTF-8?Q?oesn=E2=80=99t_=E2=80=98get=E2=80=99_it_=E2=80=93_and_it_loo ks_like_she=E2=80=99s_right?= [] Re: New Library item: Joni Mitchell says Saskatoon doesn't 'get' it - and it looks like she's right [Anita ] Re: New Library item: Joni Mitchell says Saskatoon doesn't 'get' it - and it looks like she's right [Catherine ] Re: Headphones, njc [Michael Paz ] RE: New Library item: Joni Mitchell says Saskatoon doesn't 'get' it - and it looks like she's right [] Re: Headphones, njc ["Randy Remote" ] Re: Joni musings [Catherine McKay ] Re: Joni musings [Catherine McKay ] Headphones, Speakers, Cellphones & Cereal Bowls (NJC) [est86mlm@ameritech] Re: Headphones, njc [Dave Blackburn ] Re: Wild Tales by Graham Nash - Book - eBook - Audiobook - Random House [] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 20:06:37 +0100 From: Anita G Subject: Re: Joni musings My last sentence should have read: That sounds good, but there's also a time and place to firmly keep others OUT by setting a firm boundary, in my view. With Love Anita ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 20:04:24 +0100 From: Anita G Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_New_Library_item=3A_Joni_Mitchell_says_Saskatoo n_d?= =?UTF-8?Q?oesn=E2=80=99t_=E2=80=98get=E2=80=99_it_=E2=80=93_and_it_loo ks_like_she=E2=80=99s_right?= On 29/07/2013, Bob.Muller@fluor.com wrote: > Now there you go. That's more like it. Great! That's redressed the balance a bit more. Anita ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 21:57:07 +0100 From: Anita Subject: Re: New Library item: Joni Mitchell says Saskatoon doesn't 'get' it - and it looks like she's right > Me too, but since the music is a bit talked out after 15 years and nothing > new on the horizon (although maybe even as we speak she's working on > "Saskatoon Sucks"), this makes for fun fodder. Is that on the same Sasketchewan Tribute album as "I Fort Macleod (and Macleod won)" and "Flin Flon Gooly Gooly Gooly Watch Out!" Anita (slightly obscure, I know, but wondering if there may be more) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:08:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: New Library item: Joni Mitchell says Saskatoon doesn't 'get' it - and it looks like she's right Saskatoonberry Lane All I want (is to get the f*ck out of Saskatchewan) This flight tonight (to anywhere but S'toon) Judgement of the right-wing news commentators Free man in Assiniboia In France they kiss on Main Street (but in Battleford, they don't) and so on. It was a relief to read that last article, by the way. - ----- Original Message ----- > From: Anita > To: "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" > Cc: Anne Sandstrom ; "joni@smoe.org" > Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 4:57:07 PM > Subject: Re: New Library item: Joni Mitchell says Saskatoon doesn't 'get' it - and it looks like she's right > >> Me too, but since the music is a bit talked out after 15 years and nothing >> new on the horizon (although maybe even as we speak she's working on >> "Saskatoon Sucks"), this makes for fun fodder. > > Is that on the same Sasketchewan Tribute album as "I Fort Macleod (and > Macleod won)" and "Flin Flon Gooly Gooly Gooly Watch Out!" > > Anita (slightly obscure, I know, but wondering if there may be more) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 23:15:39 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Headphones, njc I use to be a Sony Guy for years till they replaced the old fold up one with 600 series. Can't remember the exact model at the moment (too much brain damage). But I will be listening to the Sennheiser PXC-460 (noise canceling headphones when I fly to Thailand for another Royal Performace. Can't wait. This one is going to be very special for me. More news later. Best Paz P.S> I will say that I am NOT impressed with the Dr. Dre phones which are all the rage with the kids. TOO much bass enhancment and they are more coloured than Bose and thats really coloured. Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com The Paz Group On Jul 29, 2013, at 7:18 PM, Randy Remote wrote: From: I wonder what Blackburn and RR use. AKG K 240. These sound the most natural to me, and the bass is good. Almost every recording studio has these. I also own a Sony MDR7506 which are pretty nice and they fold up somewhat, so good for travel, and a pair of Sennheiser HD-280-these are my least favorite (and at $99 the most expensive)-they are just too tilted towards the treble end for me, but would be good for someone with good old age-related hearing loss. The best 'phones I have ever heard are Audio-Technica ATH-7 electret (like electrostatic). You have to hook them up to your amp like speakers (!) with a little companion box, so they are not at all portable, but sound amazing. Haven't been made since the 70's, though. I have heard good things about the Grados. RR ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:32:05 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: RE: New Library item: Joni Mitchell says Saskatoon doesn't 'get' it - and it looks like she's right Me too, but since the music is a bit talked out after 15 years and nothing new on the horizon (although maybe even as we speak she's working on "Saskatoon Sucks"), this makes for fun fodder. Plus, since she was dissing Saskatoon and comparing it where *I* reside (Deep South/South Carolina) I could take the stance as being offended by being labeled a bigot. I don't consider myself one but I'm certainly surrounded by them, and like this writer says, rather than simply attack the messenger let's take a harder look at the message. Bob - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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I also own a Sony MDR7506 which are pretty nice and they fold up somewhat, so good for travel, and a pair of Sennheiser HD-280-these are my least favorite (and at $99 the most expensive)-they are just too tilted towards the treble end for me, but would be good for someone with good old age-related hearing loss. The best 'phones I have ever heard are Audio-Technica ATH-7 electret (like electrostatic). You have to hook them up to your amp like speakers (!) with a little companion box, so they are not at all portable, but sound amazing. Haven't been made since the 70's, though. I have heard good things about the Grados. RR ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:34:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni musings I'm not sure if the notion of people not knowing how to honour was strictly aimed at Canadians, but it could easily be. I also didn't realize that Joni was so involved in First Nations issues. I knew that she has been in the past and, if she still is, I'm happy to hear that. Goodness knows, despite there being more press in recent years about native peoples' issues, there is still not enough attention paid to them. It would be nice if Joni would speak out on their behalf but, better still, it would be great to see her teaming up with someone like Buffy Sainte-Marie. I just finished reading a biography about Buffy called "It's my way" - a great read. Buffy is an activist for native rights and she puts her money where her mouth is. She started an educational project years ago called Cradleboard that provides multimedia teaching resources about native life (http://www.cradleboard.org) as well as singing about native rights and human rights generally. I read those articles about the nutritional experiments. Some people believe it wasn't like that but, having read about the experiments on black men in Tuskegee from the 30s to, believe it or not, the 70s, and having read the book "The immortal life of Henrietta Lacks," and knowing (thanks to Joni) about the Magdelene Laundries, I can absolutely believe that this was done. It seems that experimenting on or taking advantage of poor and disadvantaged people without their knowledge or permission, supposedly in the name of some higher authority - science or religion, was commonplace not so long ago. For all we know, some of it may still be going on. Joni says: Uranium money Is booming in the old home town now It's putting up sleek concrete Tearing the old landmarks down now Paving over brave little parks Ripping off Indian land again How long how long Short sighted business men In "No, no, Kegagesh,"(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7EYXnLLWZ8) Buffy says: These old men they make their dirty deals. Go in the back room and see what they can steal. Talk about your beautiful and spacious skies. It's about uranium; it's about the water rights. - ----- Original Message ----- > From: Anita > To: Catherine McKay > Cc: JONIMITCHELL DISCUSSION LIST > Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 1:53:39 PM > Subject: Re: Joni musings > > Cath, I did wonder if Joni's references to the notion of honour have been > influenced by her association with First People. Wab Kinew, Director of > Indigenous Inclusion, the University of Winnipeg - (quoted in the Huffington > Post just this July 25th )contained this, which is about nutritional > experiments First People were subjected to. > > 'Yet I know the hurt from these recent revelations is not limited to the > Indigenous community. I know many Canadians from other walks of life who have > been upset by the news and and are contemplating what it says about this > country's history. For me, the more important question is "what will > our > response say about what Canada is today?"Some friends and I have put out a > call to Canadians to shed some of this negativity by uniting across cultural > and religious lines. We are calling our gatherings (to be held today at noon) > "Honour The Apology," in reference to Prime Minister Harper's 2008 > apology to > Residential School survivors. The idea is that we can each honour the apology > on an individual level by commemorating or praying for the survivors.' > > I wondered if Joni's friends have been talking recently and feel that this > Apology has not been properly honoured in Canada. Maybe it's in her mind > that > Canadians don't know how to honour as a result. > That's my musing! > Anita ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:22:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni musings Wow, Anne! How nice to hear from you! Your voice has been missed. I think that, of all the articles I've read on this issue, there was only one that mentioned that what Joni wanted to create was a First Nations museum and you are so right: that changes everything and gives it a context that makes sense. I wonder if that's Joni assuming people know what she's talking about or bad journalists either not catching her drift or deliberately leaving that part out in order to create controversy. I think Joni might be a small l-liberal, but that she seems very conservative about quite a few things. I also find it laughable that some people (like Michael Coren) use the word "liberal" as if it were a bad thing (and I know some people do the same with the word "conservative.")B I guess we can't tell Joni what to do with her money, but maybe she should put it where her mouth is. I was very surprised when I read an article that was posted on the jonimitchell.com site yesterday (THE GIRLSbLETTING GO, by HubertB Saal, Newsweek, July 14, 1969 - http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2664) to read that Joni was making half-a-million a year from her publishing company, and that was in 1969. I guess I didn't realize that business was so lucrative back then. If she had invested the money wisely, who knows how rich she is today? Yeah, I know, it's none of my business, but I was really amazed at the dollars. - ----- Original Message ----- > From: Anne Sandstrom > To: Catherine McKay ; Mary Morris ; JONIMITCHELL DISCUSSION LIST > Cc: > Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 9:40:09 AM > Subject: RE: Joni musings > > Well, I'm disappointed in, but not surprised by, Joni's remarks. She > does seem to have painted with too broad a brush. Also, she really should have > emphasized the fact that she apparently wanted to create a First Nations museum, > not something dedicated to her. In that context, her remarks make more sense. It > seems that she feels that the reason Saskatoon has been unable to get its act > together is continuing bigotry. Whether that's true or not (and there's > probably some truth but that's probably not the whole story), the whole > thing has been further muddled by various media outlets, all of whom have their > own agendas. > > As for Joni being liberal, I've never particularly thought so. Other than > occasional concert appearances, mostly much earlier in her career, she > doesn't seem to have been active in any particular cause. She does seem to > whine a fair amount, but I don't see evidence of her actually putting her > money where her mouth is. And given how un-humble she is about everything else, > I doubt she's doing something quietly, in the background. > > I'll be interested in reading Graham's book. I have the sense that he is > more actively engaged in supporting his beliefs with actions. > > Also, just watched a rare concert DVD of Gordon Lightfoot from about 1972. > AMAZING!!! And what a voice. I always took his (great) songwriting for granted. > > Lots of love, > Anne ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 23:13:58 -0500 From: est86mlm@ameritech.net Subject: Headphones, Speakers, Cellphones & Cereal Bowls (NJC) Jim, Save some money.....at least while your in the laundromat. Take a long a dry cereal bowl! "[We] place our cell phone in a cereal bowl for greater speakerphone amplification. Aiming the speaker at the bottom of the bowl reflects the sounds up the sides and out with a significantly greater "punch" than without. Likewise, the microphone seems to pick up our voices much more effectively, as well." http://lifehacker.com/5305497/amplify-your-speakerphone-with-a-cereal-bowl I was reading about this last week and was amazed! Cheerio Laura Subject: Re: Headphones, njc Cool! I didn't do listening test but should have. I just set a budget of $99 and bought Grado because they have a rep for bang-for-the-buck. I wonder what Blackburn and RR use. np: Big Country on the iPhone at full volume in the laundromat Jim On Jul 28, 2013, at 10:00 PM, Richard Flynn wrote: > I use the same Grado Headphones you do! > > Richard Flynn ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 06:14:52 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Headphones, njc Hi Jim, I use the Grados too! Their upper lines are said to have a bit more extended bass but I go for headphones that reproduce what the mixer was going for. The Grados do that and all my recording clients love them too. I have two pairs of SR80i, one pair of SR125 and a pair of iGrados for iPod. Dave On Jul 28, 2013, at 7:09 PM, jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com wrote: > Cool! I didn't do listening test but should have. I just set a budget of $99 and bought Grado because they have a rep for bang-for-the-buck. I wonder what Blackburn and RR use. > > np: Big Country on the iPhone at full volume in the laundromat > > Jim > > On Jul 28, 2013, at 10:00 PM, Richard Flynn wrote: > >> I use the same Grado Headphones you do! >> >> Richard Flynn ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 17:40:27 +0200 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: Re: Wild Tales by Graham Nash - Book - eBook - Audiobook - Random House Am 28.07.2013 23:47, Wie Sharon Watkins so vortrefflich formulierte: > Book release is scheduled for September. More information and Joni mention at link below: > > http://www.randomhouse.com/book/223916/wild-tales-by-graham-nash You can pre-order it from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Wild-Tales-Rock-Roll-Life/dp/0385347545/ref=nosim/cagnlace00/ Scheduled release date is September 17. moni k. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2013 #1095 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------