From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #1030 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, July 25 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 1030 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Joni Saskatoon debate and Chuck Mitchell [kbhla@fastmail.fm] Graham's camera [jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com] Cabin as cave [jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com] Re: New Library item: Hostility toward feminism blocks positive change (NJC) [Clint Norwood Subject: Re: New Library item: Hostility toward feminism blocks positive change (NJC) I was just trying to understand Joni. And George did the lumping, though I do agree we err when we take ourselves too seriously in an absurd world. :) - -Clint ________________________________ From: David J. Phillips To: Clint Norwood Cc: "TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com" ; "joni@smoe.org" Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 12:45 PM Subject: Re: New Library item: Hostility toward feminism blocks positive change (NJC) No, it does not take a lot of imagination to piss off a feminist. Just lump us all into one group and ridicule us for taking ourselves too seriously. djp On 24/07/13 13:3156, Clint Norwood wrote: > I think I understand Joni's take on feminism. Those of us that really > want to be individuals don't like being lumped into a group and > labeled. > > Plus there is George Carlin's take which, while funny is also pretty > reasonable.. > > > "Feminists want to control your language. Feminists want to tell you > how to talk. And their not alone. Their not alone. I'm not picking on > the feminists. They got a lot of company in this country. There's a > lot of groups, a lot of institutions in this country want to control > your language. Tell you what you can say and what you can't say. As I > said, I got nothing against the feminists. In fact, I happen to agree > with most of the feminist philosophy I have read. > > But, when it comes to changing the language, I think they make some > good points, because we do think in language and so the quality of > our thoughts and ideas could only be as good as the quality of our > language. So maybe some of this patriarcho shit ought to go away. I > think mankind ought to be human kind, but they take it too far, they > take themselves too seriously, they exaggerate. They want me to call > that thing in the street a personhole cover. I think that's taking it > a little bit too far. > > > You know what I mean? So...so I think it's an exaggeration and I like > to piss off any group that take's itself a little bit too seriously. > And it does not take a lot of imagination to piss off a feminist." > > -Clint > > > > > > ________________________________ From: > "TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com" To: > joni@smoe.org Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 8:55 PM Subject: New > Library item: Hostility toward feminism blocks positive change > > > Title: Hostility toward feminism blocks positive change Publication: > The Manitoban Date: 2013.7.22 > > http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2646 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:31:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Clint Norwood Subject: Re: New Library item: Hostility toward feminism blocks positive change I think I understand Joni's take on feminism. Those of us that really want to be individuals don't like being lumped into a group and labeled. Plus there is George Carlin's take which, while funny is also pretty reasonable.. "Feminists want to control your language. Feminists want to tell you how to talk. And their not alone. Their not alone. I'm not picking on the feminists. They got a lot of company in this country. There's a lot of groups, a lot of institutions in this country want to control your language. Tell you what you can say and what you can't say. As I said, I got nothing against the feminists. In fact, I happen to agree with most of the feminist philosophy I have read. But, when it comes to changing the language, I think they make some good points, because we do think in language and so the quality of our thoughts and ideas could only be as good as the quality of our language. So maybe some of this patriarcho shit ought to go away. I think mankind ought to be human kind, but they take it too far, they take themselves too seriously, they exaggerate. They want me to call that thing in the street a personhole cover. I think that's taking it a little bit too far. You know what I mean? So...so I think it's an exaggeration and I like to piss off any group that take's itself a little bit too seriously. And it does not take a lot of imagination to piss off a feminist." - -Clint ________________________________ From: "TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com" To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 8:55 PM Subject: New Library item: Hostility toward feminism blocks positive change Title: Hostility toward feminism blocks positive change Publication: The Manitoban Date: 2013.7.22 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2646 ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2013 #1030 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------