From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #17 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, January 2 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 017 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni Covers #157 - Oceans of Rivers [Happy The Man Subject: Re: Joni Covers #157 - Oceans of Rivers Bob, one of my favorite from the holiday you tube covers was a guy name Mitchell Long. It was good On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Dave Blackburn wrote: > Well it is OUR most viewed Youtube from our Blue/C&S concert. 1206 views > as of today, far ahead of any of the others. I have to attribute that to > Christmas just happening. > > On Jan 2, 2013, at 7:44 AM, Susan Tierney McNamara > wrote: > > > I love when conjectures are backed up with facts!!!! Thanks, Bob. I > think > > traditionally holiday songs were thought to be inspirational or fun > (whether > > in the religious or secular sense) ... but more often than not there is a > > sense during the holiday season that not everyone is happy and not > everyone is > > surrounded by loved ones ... it's another aspect of traditional Christmas > > themes that we think of people who may be lonely, ill or impoverished. > I'm > > reminded of one of my favorite Gordon Lightfoot songs, Circle of Steel, > which > > could be considered a holiday song in this respect. > > > > Susan Tierney McNamara > > email: sem8@cornell.edu > > > > From: Bob.Muller@fluor.com [mailto:Bob.Muller@fluor.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 10:18 AM > > To: Susan Tierney McNamara > > Cc: JMDL > > Subject: RE: Joni Covers #157 - Oceans of Rivers > > > > What is the consensus here of River as a traditional Christmas song?> > > > > I think your answer possibly depends on what constitutes a "traditional" > > Christmas song...it's an interesting and timely question, as I was just > > thinking about River covers this very morning. I would answer the > question > > with a resounding YES and I would define the phrase as a song that has > become > > associated with the holiday season. This association has happened as an > > unintentional trend which is why, I suppose, along with its melancholy > theme > > makes it a somewhat controversial holiday song. > > > > To the best of my knowledge, the first cover of the song was in 1973 by > Dave > > von Ronk. As far as I can tell, the first inclusion of River as a > SEASONAL > > song occurred in 1991 with Wintergreen's release titled "Winter". In > 1999/2000 > > (about the time I started the project), at least TEN recordings came out > on > > holiday/christmas albums, along with a couple unreleased from holiday > > specials. Fast forward to this year and last, there were 30 official > releases > > of River as a Christmas/Seasonal song, and many more unreleased. > > > > Just go to Youtube, do a search for "Joni Mitchell" for the last month, > and > > 90% of the videos are all people covering River (of varying quality I > might > > add). > > > > Whether we like it or not, or agree or not, the fact is that River HAS > become > > a traditional Christmas/Holiday song. Because of that, it has vaulted to > the > > #3 spot as the most-covered Joni song, and this time next year (or > sooner) it > > will overtake BYT and become #2. Don't think it'll ever take over the #1 > spot > > though! > > > > Bob > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2013 #17 **************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------