From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #14 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, January 2 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 014 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni Covers #157 - Oceans of Rivers [Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Joni Covers #157 - Oceans of Rivers Well it is OUR most viewed Youtube from our Blue/C&S concert. 1206 views as of today, far ahead of any of the others. I have to attribute that to Christmas just happening. On Jan 2, 2013, at 7:44 AM, Susan Tierney McNamara wrote: > I love when conjectures are backed up with facts!!!! Thanks, Bob. I think > traditionally holiday songs were thought to be inspirational or fun (whether > in the religious or secular sense) ... but more often than not there is a > sense during the holiday season that not everyone is happy and not everyone is > surrounded by loved ones ... it's another aspect of traditional Christmas > themes that we think of people who may be lonely, ill or impoverished. I'm > reminded of one of my favorite Gordon Lightfoot songs, Circle of Steel, which > could be considered a holiday song in this respect. > > Susan Tierney McNamara > email: sem8@cornell.edu > > From: Bob.Muller@fluor.com [mailto:Bob.Muller@fluor.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 10:18 AM > To: Susan Tierney McNamara > Cc: JMDL > Subject: RE: Joni Covers #157 - Oceans of Rivers > > What is the consensus here of River as a traditional Christmas song?> > > I think your answer possibly depends on what constitutes a "traditional" > Christmas song...it's an interesting and timely question, as I was just > thinking about River covers this very morning. I would answer the question > with a resounding YES and I would define the phrase as a song that has become > associated with the holiday season. This association has happened as an > unintentional trend which is why, I suppose, along with its melancholy theme > makes it a somewhat controversial holiday song. > > To the best of my knowledge, the first cover of the song was in 1973 by Dave > von Ronk. As far as I can tell, the first inclusion of River as a SEASONAL > song occurred in 1991 with Wintergreen's release titled "Winter". In 1999/2000 > (about the time I started the project), at least TEN recordings came out on > holiday/christmas albums, along with a couple unreleased from holiday > specials. Fast forward to this year and last, there were 30 official releases > of River as a Christmas/Seasonal song, and many more unreleased. > > Just go to Youtube, do a search for "Joni Mitchell" for the last month, and > 90% of the videos are all people covering River (of varying quality I might > add). > > Whether we like it or not, or agree or not, the fact is that River HAS become > a traditional Christmas/Holiday song. Because of that, it has vaulted to the > #3 spot as the most-covered Joni song, and this time next year (or sooner) it > will overtake BYT and become #2. Don't think it'll ever take over the #1 spot > though! > > Bob > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2013 #14 **************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------