From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2012 #859 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, June 17 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 859 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Shawn Colvin's Memoir/Klein [Jamie Zubairi ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 20:56:42 +0100 From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: Re: Shawn Colvin's Memoir/Klein I read somewhere that he may have broken her heart but it was over work, not a woman. And, even then, it's complicated. Joni has just had a miscarriage when Klein was booked to work in England so was committed to that contract while needing to be with Joni but couldn't get out of it. I've been trying to pin down the dates for this to make it right in my head, as the article I read it in seemed to infer that it was while recording at Peter Gabriel's studios (so around the CMIARS time?); though they divorced in/around 1993/4 but maybe he'd had various engagements at Peter's studio. It feels icky for me to be discussing this very private topic but I'm only responding to what I've read in an article. It must've been a tricky time for both of them. Just my tuppence Much Joni Jamie Zubairi Actor, Artist, VoiceOver, Sent via iPhone so please excuse the brevity and possible typos! On 17 Jun 2012, at 20:26, "patrick leader" wrote: > hey all - > > i'd heard there have been difficulties in joni's relationship with kilauren, > so i wasn't bothered by that, but this pissed me off: > > --- in the end he broke her heart. It just bothers me that he dumped Joni > for his young Brazilian wife. > > but i see that laura has done some deep research about it. > > here's a little more. i also didn't like the petty 'young brazilian wife' > reference. here are the birth and wedding years: > > joni - 1943 > klein - 1956 > souza - 1966 > > klein m. joni - 1982 > klein m. souza - 2006 > > so joni and klein were 38 and 26 when they married, while klein and souza > were 50 and 40. the age difference was larger and more significant for joni > and klein (as they were both younger), and souza was 40 with a very serious > career going on when she married klein, hardly a young or insignificant > person. > > i don't mean to pick on you, sharon, but the paragraph did seem to be more > about the joni in your head rather than the real person. > > i also agree with rob (evian) about klein's influence. first, he's a great > bass player, stepping into jaco's shoes on the 1982 live appearances and the > 1983 tour and sounding fantastic. second, they went on a production journey > together. they made some mistakes together, but they got better with each > album. i think the line from wild things, dog eat dog, chalkmark, and night > ride home is improvement with each album, and some (but not me) would put > turbulent indigo even higher. that's a pretty good record, and, for > contrast, joni's first album without klein (taming the tiger) is very poorly > arranged and produced. > >> In my top 4 fave Joni songs is Nothing Can be Done, which she claims isn't > autobiographical but I call bs on that. > > yes to calling bs on joni and yes to a fantastic song. > > patrick > > np - tennis on tv ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2012 #859 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------