From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2012 #225 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, February 15 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 225 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: Time's Up (sjc) ["kbhla" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:10:45 -0800 From: "kbhla" Subject: RE: Time's Up (sjc) From what I've personally seen, genetics does play a part in longevity. Also, a good diet in your formative years and attitude and spunk - which I think ties into Gary's thoughts about "heart." I have seen some family and friends overcome the most dire health challenges and diagnoses because of their attitude. 50 years ago my grandmother suffered 3 massive strokes at age 72. The doctors first said she wouldn't make it, then said she would be a "vegetable" and then said she would never talk or walk again. Well, she completely overcame all of their predictions and recovered without any impariment. The doctors were amazed and wrote about her in some medical journal. Their conclusion was that her attitude got her through it all. She did have a healthy lifetstyle, never drank or smoked and had an endless curiousity about, and engagement with, life. She lived to be 97, still living independently in her own place. On the other hand, her father drank and smoked heavily but he lived to be 103! He was still driving a red MG sports car when he was 100! ;-) Joni has longevity on both sides from Myrtle and Bill and Bill's obituary mentioned that they ate healthy, nutritious meals all their lives. The obit also mentioned Bill's love for life and engagement with many interests well into his senior years. Some of my doctors, who know of my bad habits, have commented that I am ahead of the curve mainly because of a good diet growing up. Kakki Of course there will ALWAYS be outliers - they can't be considered the norm. Science and modern medicine tells us what the risks are for a number of behaviors. It doesn't mean that it always holds true (Keith Richards is still kicking; meanwhile my Mom took great care of herself and cancer got her before she reached the age I'm at right now), but over the long haul it does in most cases. "What's in your heart"? What does that mean exactly? Good people live longer? Really? "Nothing really dies" Excuse me? There's nothing even close to the truth in any of this. Having said that, I respect your beliefs and to each his own, just don't don't try to pass them off as truths when we all know better. Bob ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2012 #225 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list, send tojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------