From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2012 #1810 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, December 13 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 1810 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- saying thank you - covers, njc [Stewart.Simon@sunlife.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:29:47 -0500 From: Stewart.Simon@sunlife.com Subject: saying thank you - covers, njc from laurent One may argue that putting out Joni covers or videos on a torrent site anonymously is like an act of charity, giving to the world, being a cogwheel in the grand karmic scheme. It is one way of seeing things. I find myself torn and fluctuating between this altruistic attitude and the basic craving for recognition.Has anybody felt this before? I will make a religious disgression here: It is said that after we pass on, what's left of us is the memory we leave behind with others. It is also said that there are different levels of charity, the highest level being giving anonymously and not even knowing who the recipient will be. I understand this and i certainly do not expect any thank you for giving to charity. However, as Paul mentioned, if i give to a beggar, because there is direct contact, i do expect an acknowledgement however small it may be. ====================================== Hi Laurent, My 2 cents on the subject..... There are at least two kinds of altruism. Psychological altruism is when a person acts out of concern solely for the well-being of others, without regard to his or her own self-interest. Separately, biological altruism refers to behavior that helps the survival of a species without benefiting the particular individual whobs being altruistic. So my guess is that your reference to a religious digression to be remembered in some capacity after you move on is an example of biological altruism. This is the conflict your facing Laurent - your speaking about biological altruism while everyone else is speaking of psychological altruism. Finally, the concept of Psychological Egoism suggests that no act of sharing, helping or sacrificing can be described as truly altruistic, as the helper of giver receives an intrinsic reward in the form of personal gratification. Food for thought.......Stewart - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2012 #1810 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------