From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2012 #1807 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, December 13 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 1807 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: saying thank you & Covers & Up Myself NJC [Anita G Subject: Re: saying thank you & Covers & Up Myself NJC Regarding this post below, I just re-read it and thought what a pompous, arrogant twit I can be. It came with good intentions, but now make my toes curl with embarrassment. I think I must try to lurk more! Apologies to Laurent and JMDL, Anita On 13/12/2012, Anita G wrote: > Laurent wrote: >> "So you see, in the case of the torrent site, which has some 10.000 >> members, >> i think it's not the thank you i'm after but instead for some >> recognition. >> This has to do with the fear of dying and of being totally forgotten. It >> is >> unrational because i know damn well that i will be forgotten." > > In that way, Laurent, as Corey pointed out, your energy is being > wasted. You are fully aware of your emotional see-saw, yet you persist > in satying on it. In my original post, I said it is the road to > nowhere. It just depletes you. > > Laurent wrote: > "Still i think >> it is a basic human need to seek recognition by one's peers. Without this >> need, why would for instance rich and famous artists, movie directors, >> etc >> keep doing what they do, assuming they don't need the money?" > > Whilst for many of us, we may want recognition, I would ask from whom > are we REALLY wanting to be recognised? Probably 8 out 10 will be > parents. In that way, we never become adult. > > As for true artists, they work it because they LOVE it and, not for > recognition. Look at Van Gogh for example. He was driven and wasn't > thanked at all for his art. There are thousands of artists who paint > or make music just as expression. For many artists, it's all they can > do in life. Work is Love made visible, so Kahil Gibran writes. To work > with Love is a great gift. > >>" I find myself torn and fluctuating between this altruistic attitude and >> the >> basic craving for recognition. >> Has anybody felt this before?" > > Yes I have felt it and some times still feel it. But I see it for what > it is. A useless road that leads me nowhere. > Anita ( striving to and sometimes able to work with Love) ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2012 #1807 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------