From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2012 #1774 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, December 10 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 1774 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: how many suscribers really? NJC [Sally ] Re: how many suscribers really? [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: how many suscribers really? [Catherine McKay ] RE: how many suscribers really? NJC [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] RE: how many suscribers really? NJC ["Laurent Olszer" ] re: New Yorker essay by Zadie Smith [joe farrell ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 17:31:02 -0500 From: Sally Subject: Re: how many suscribers really? NJC I meant to add that I have a problem with "butt naked"....and "I'm so nauseous" (which frequently prompts me to agree vigorously). Apologies, just had to get that off my mind! Sent from Confunction Junction on my iPhone On Dec 10, 2012, at 4:01 PM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > Laurent, > > I suppose I should say "thanks" for that. :-) > > Similar subject but a different gripe - what does rub me wrong is when I > tell someone "thank you" and their response is "no problem". I know that's > where the language has shifted to but it still doesn't sound as good as > "you're welcome", "happy to do it", etc - something more positive than "no > problem". > > Bob > > > > > > From: "Laurent Olszer" > To: > Cc: , > Date: 12/10/2012 03:56 PM > Subject: RE: how many suscribers really? > > > > Hey Bob, i know you are in a better position to talk about this topic and > i appreciate your words of wisdom, as always. > > Laurent > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:42:07 -0500 (EST) From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: how many suscribers really? People are more likely to say "thank you" when something is done specifically for them. In this case, you are sending something out to a group, or the world, in which case I suggest you have no right to expect individual responses. Paul In a message dated 12/10/2012 3:35:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, anima_rising@yahoo.ca writes: Sorry to say, but I think the majority of people probably are either assholes, or perhaps never were taught to say "thank you" as children (which makes their parents assholes, I guess). Many's the time I've held a door for someone as they're coming behind me. Maybe half of them (at most) will say "Thank you." I don't know why that is, because I did teach my kids to say "Please" and "Thank you" and I've had people tell me I must have done a good job raising them, which surprises me because I find it sad that people *wouldn't* be polite enough to say "Thanks." Maybe it's just me, but I know that people in Toronto, where I live, did used to be much more polite and I think that the failure to say a simple "Please" or "Thank you" may be related to the fact that there are just more and more people rushing around, but I really don't know, and I think that's a poor excuse in any case. Having said that, I'm sure there are times when I've forgotten to say "Thanks" to someone for a kindness done. I know I was an asshole to you and a few others a while back about a disc you were sending around. I hope I apologized for that. (Sometimes I think I've done something, when I haven't, so I'm probably getting senile.) Where do you post torrents? Is it on dimeadozen? Just wondering, because I haven't been to that site in a while. I've realized there's no way I'd ever have the time to listen to all the music I used to collect there. ____________________________________ Sorry guys but in addition to being selfish and/or a poor judge i must also be dumb because i still don't get it. Anita wrote i should lower my expectations. How can i lower them if i expect nothing but basic politeness? I don't really expect flowers, but what exactly is the level below my basic expectation? Is there an intermediate level or is it a plain 0? FYI Right now the ratio of thanks i get is 10-25% and I'm quite happy when i get 25%. "Poor judge of human nature" Oh Paul baby, you have no idea how i feel about human nature. I know there is the worst out there but also the best. Now, this torrent thing is like a large community, not on a youtube scale. So why not expect the best, or should i say a minimum, from people who are sensitive to the same music as we are? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:35:39 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: how many suscribers really? Sorry to say, but I think the majority of people probably are either assholes, or perhaps never were taught to say "thank you" as children (which makes their parents assholes, I guess). Many's the time I've held a door for someone as they're coming behind me. Maybe half of them (at most) will say "Thank you." I don't know why that is, because I did teach my kids to say "Please" and "Thank you" and I've had people tell me I must have done a good job raising them, which surprises me because I find it sad that people *wouldn't* be polite enough to say "Thanks." Maybe it's just me, but I know that people in Toronto, where I live, did used to be much more polite and I think that the failure to say a simple "Please" or "Thank you" may be related to the fact that there are just more and more people rushing around, but I really don't know, and I think that's a poor excuse in any case. Having said that, I'm sure there are times when I've forgotten to say "Thanks" to someone for a kindness done. I know I was an asshole to you and a few others a while back about a disc you were sending around. I hope I apologized for that. (Sometimes I think I've done something, when I haven't, so I'm probably getting senile.) Where do you post torrents? Is it on dimeadozen? Just wondering, because I haven't been to that site in a while. I've realized there's no way I'd ever have the time to listen to all the music I used to collect there. >________________________________ > > > >Sorry guys but in addition to being selfish and/or a poor judge i must also >be dumb because i still don't get it. > >Anita wrote i should lower my expectations. How can i lower them if i expect >nothing but basic politeness? I don't really expect flowers, but what >exactly is the level below my basic expectation? Is there an intermediate >level or is it a plain 0? >FYI Right now the ratio of thanks i get is 10-25% and I'm quite happy when i >get 25%. > >"Poor judge of human nature" >Oh Paul baby, you have no idea how i feel about human nature. I know there >is the worst out there but also the best. Now, this torrent thing is like a >large community, not on a youtube scale. So why not expect the best, or >should i say a minimum, from people who are sensitive to the same music as >we are? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:01:27 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: RE: how many suscribers really? NJC Laurent, I suppose I should say "thanks" for that. :-) Similar subject but a different gripe - what does rub me wrong is when I tell someone "thank you" and their response is "no problem". I know that's where the language has shifted to but it still doesn't sound as good as "you're welcome", "happy to do it", etc - something more positive than "no problem". Bob From: "Laurent Olszer" To: Cc: , Date: 12/10/2012 03:56 PM Subject: RE: how many suscribers really? Hey Bob, i know you are in a better position to talk about this topic and i appreciate your words of wisdom, as always. Laurent - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:12:32 +0100 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: RE: how many suscribers really? NJC LOL thanks to you my friend for putting things in the right perspective Laurent _____ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 17:15:48 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: how many subscribers really? There's a story in the New Testament that Jesus healed 10 lepers and only one came back to thank Him. I take from that two things: 1) people forget to say "Thank you" more often than they remember, and 2) we should try to remember more often. Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:49:55 +0100 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: RE: how many suscribers really? Paul: Who talks about "right"? Of course i have no right to nothing. Catherine, yes it's dimeadozen. You've already apologized but thank you for the encore. Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:43:10 +0000 From: joe farrell Subject: re: New Yorker essay by Zadie Smith I would love to read this. Could anybody make the complete essay available on the digest, or in the Joni website library, please? Regards, Joe. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 17:10:05 -0600 From: Cindy Vickery Subject: RE: Top 5 producers, njc How lovely to open my Joni-mail for the first time in FOREVER and see an Eno mention! I adore Brian Eno, and could make a strong argument that he's one of the most clever lyricists in the latter half of the 20th c, though he's best known for his other talents. Lama - If you won't hold me to a deadline and will forgive me for not being techno-savvy enough to send files over the magic of the internet, I'll be glad to burn you an Eno intro disc for your listening pleasure. Send me your snail-mail address, offline? Cindy __________________________ Sue McNamara said <> after Jim said <> ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2012 #1774 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. 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