From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2012 #1771 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, December 10 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 1771 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: That time Dave Brubeck put me in my place, njc [Anita ] Re: Top 5 producers, njc [Victor Johnson ] Two random comments [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: Top 5 producers, njc [Dave Blackburn ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 13:41:03 +0000 From: Anita Subject: Re: That time Dave Brubeck put me in my place, njc Jim, I felt.quite sorry that your kind words weren't better received,especially as you and your Dad were lost. I really appreciated Joni at Ruby Lake,and the two other times I met her, for her patience and kindness. Maybe he was having an off day. I heard a fascinating half hour programme on BBC Radio 4 last night which was an interview with Dave Brubeck by Paul Gambaccini for Brubeck's 90th birthday. What a life story! Anita x On 9 Dec 2012, at 08:59, jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com wrote: > Telling this story makes me look like a buffoon but I can take it. > > About 9 years ago I took my father to see Dave Brubeck at a nearby college in the middle of a snow storm. My Dad was getting along fairly well with a walker at that stage, so I arranged for special seating with "handicapped access". I dropped him off at the designated door at the college's hockey arena. (I don't know why we continue to use hockey arenas in my country when our perfectly good music halls sit unused, silent, and empty.) > > After I parked the car, I trudged through the snow and rejoined my father inside. It turned out that we were back stage. Our path took us right past two men in tuxedos. When we got closer, my father, who was nearly deaf, announced in a loud voice, "THAT'S DAVE, RIGHT THERE!" > > I guess I was star-stuck because I took a side-step to my left, and said to Mr. Brubeck, "Thanks coming out here in the middle of winter." > > A moment passed, then another. I realized I had overstepped my bounds. I blinked. > > He motioned towards our seats and said simply, "I'll see you out there." He meant that my place was among my peers, in the audience. I mumbled an apology, gathered my father and continued on. > > Jim L > > > Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 03:59:23 -0500 From: jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com Subject: That time Dave Brubeck put me in my place, njc Telling this story makes me look like a buffoon but I can take it. About 9 years ago I took my father to see Dave Brubeck at a nearby college in the middle of a snow storm. My Dad was getting along fairly well with a walker at that stage, so I arranged for special seating with "handicapped access". I dropped him off at the designated door at the college's hockey arena. (I don't know why we continue to use hockey arenas in my country when our perfectly good music halls sit unused, silent, and empty.) After I parked the car, I trudged through the snow and rejoined my father inside. It turned out that we were back stage. Our path took us right past two men in tuxedos. When we got closer, my father, who was nearly deaf, announced in a loud voice, "THAT'S DAVE, RIGHT THERE!" I guess I was star-stuck because I took a side-step to my left, and said to Mr. Brubeck, "Thanks coming out here in the middle of winter." A moment passed, then another. I realized I had overstepped my bounds. I blinked. He motioned towards our seats and said simply, "I'll see you out there." He meant that my place was among my peers, in the audience. I mumbled an apology, gathered my father and continued on. Jim L Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 10:32:24 -0800 From: PMeyer Subject: Re: JMDL: how many subscribers, really? I discovered recently that my posts were not making it onto the digest, which something like 60 percent of subscribers get, but were making it to those getting every post separately. Don't know why or how often, but it might be one issue that decreases posts and responses. Paul - ----- Original Message ----- From: "David J. Phillips" To: "Laurent Olszer" Cc: Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 6:48 AM Subject: Re: JMDL: how many subscribers, really? > On 07/12/12 07:5732, Laurent Olszer wrote: > > the lack of reaction on my posts, except on a few highly > > controversial topics. > > I've been part of this list (or its predecessor) since 1996. I post > rarely, but always with wit, insight and humility. > > And almost never is there a response. So this leaves a weird sense that > there are the cool kids who know each other and laugh and play together, > and the rest of us who are always interrupting at the wrong time with > jokes that don't quite hit the mark. > > This is the nature of groups, I think. There really are people who know > each other well on the list and who are comfortable joshing around and > conversing with each other. > > And that's not a closed group - I imagine that if I put some time into > joshing and conversing I'd fit right in. But it does take time and I > don't seem to want to spend that time, even though you all really really > are the cool kids and I'd love to have you recognize me as cool, too. > > So, you all (you know who you are!) are lovely to be with. I'm delighted > that you laugh and josh, i identify as part of the group, if there were a > jonifest nearby I'd participate, but i just don't post that much. > > But I'm about to start another thread on Joni and the I Ching. Watch for > it! > > djp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 09:51:22 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Top 5 producers, njc Who is Brian Eno??? He's part of Fripp and Eno, and he's released some solo recordings of ambient/experimental music, played in Roxy Music, worked with Bowie among others, produced several albums for U2 including The Joshua Tree. On Sunday, December 9, 2012, wrote: > http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/jul/04/top-5-98304083/ > > Martin, George > Spector, Phil > Jones, Quincy > Lynne, Jeff > Eno, Brian / Lanois, Daniel > > Who is Brian Eno? > > Jim L ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 07:29:03 -0500 (EST) From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Two random comments A couple of random responses: Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 04:56:56 -0500 From: Sally Subject: Re: JMDL: how many subscribers, really? " I truly think that often it is refreshing and enlightening to hear what newcomers to the music think...you know! I mean, I've been listening to it now since about 1972 and each time I play it, I learn something new. But as others pointed out in a thread not long ago, I think you are so lucky to be hearing it for the first time in some cases. ..." There are many different reasons and times that people are attracted to Joni's music, but the two main groups -- those who watched her grow from a folk musician through her rock and roll stage into jazz and those who started listening to her after she became a jazz musician and then looked back into her earlier music. I had heard some of Joni's early songs in passing when I was younger, but really began to pay attention to her with Blue in 1971, and looked back at her earlier albums before each new release through Wild Things run Fast stunned me with her growth, development and imagination. I think that is an experience that those who became fans of Joni's music later in her career often fail to appreciate, especially when you consider how many successful musicians are still writing and performing decades later the same style of music that made them successful, afraid to risk alienating the audience they built their career upon. On Dec 7, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Laurent Olszer wrote: > When i upload a music dvd that took time and effort to make, all i expect is a "thank you" and i'd rather please 5 grateful people than 500 ungrateful ones. > Some friends put up a lot of stuff on youtube, all they're after is the largest possible audience and they don't care how many thanks they get, if any. Their logic i guess is that people thank you by downloading orwatching, personally i don't get it. > Any comments? > Laurent I think Anita put it about as nicely as anyone could. As usual, I am less tactful. If you are doing it for the 'thank yous,' you either are a poor judge of human nature or selfishly seeking self-aggrandizement. Altruism, baby, altruism. Paul Ivice ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 07:10:08 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Top 5 producers, njc What a strange list! Jeff Lynne in the top 5 producers, indeed! Some rather Beatle-centric critic put this list together, I'd say. He/she calls them "knob-twiddlers", rather condescendinglyI don't think George Martin, Quincy Jones or Phil Spector ever touched the console - that was the engineer's job, by union rules, in the UK at least. Also, it wasn't Eno and Lanois that made U2 popular or gave them their sound, already well established for them by Steve Lillywhite many years earlier. I guess newspapers need filler-fluff like this to pad their pages. Dave B On Dec 8, 2012, at 10:56 PM, jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com wrote: > http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/jul/04/top-5-98304083/ > > Martin, George > Spector, Phil > Jones, Quincy > Lynne, Jeff > Eno, Brian / Lanois, Daniel > > Who is Brian Eno? > > Jim L ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2012 #1771 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------