From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2012 #1702 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, November 20 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 1702 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 [David Lahm ] RE: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 [Susan Tierney McNamara ] Similes and metaphors (Furry) [Betsy ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 [Stdoherty ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 [Anita ] American Masters: David Geffen njc [jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com] Re: Similes and metaphors (Furry) [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Graham Nash and Blue [Susan Tierney McNamara ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 [Catherine McKay ] RE: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 [Susan Tierney McNamara ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 [Catherine McKay ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 [Stdoherty ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 [Shari Eaton ] Re: Sweet Bird [LC Stanley ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 09:51:54 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 I didn't see it either, even though I tried to be open-minded about it> Same here...I squinted, looked at the pictures from a distance, and I NEVER saw much of a resemblance. Of course, makeup and costumes and special effects can make anything work. I say we're being SWIFTboated! Bob - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 09:48:31 -0500 From: David Lahm Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 This is the frustration we have to endure: younger people with different priorities take control of the culture which we experienced first-hand and, whether innocently or cynically, re-write it for their own world. DAVID LAHM On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Catherine McKay wrote: > I didn't see it either, even though I tried to be open-minded about it. > But, I > suppose, for those who aren't familiar with Joni, simply having the editors > say she's "channelling Joni" would be enough to make it so. > >________________________________ > > From: Stdoherty > >To: > joni@smoe.org > >Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 6:12:35 AM > >Subject: Re: > onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 > > > >I don't think those photos of Swift as "Joni" > look like her at all - what's > >more - the clothes don't seem like her either. > This isjust bad all the way > >around. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 17:10:39 +0000 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 http://www.justjaredjr.com/2012/11/12/taylor-swift-harpers-bazaar-december-2012-cover-girl/ Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: Anita [mailto:lawntreader@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 11:42 AM To: Susan Tierney McNamara Cc: Catherine McKay; Stdoherty; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 Does anyone still have the link?Can't find original post Anita (coughing and spluttering with man flu) On 20 Nov 2012, at 15:01, Susan Tierney McNamara wrote: > I see this photo shoot as Taylor dressed in what the fashion industry thinks is the retro 70s look ... especially the shot where she is leaning on the chair in the dark beige wide leg creased pants. It makes her look more like Jean Shrimpton than Joni. > > Susan Tierney McNamara > email: sem8@cornell.edu > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Catherine McKay > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:37 AM > To: Stdoherty; joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 > > I didn't see it either, even though I tried to be open-minded about it. But, I suppose, for those who aren't familiar with Joni, simply having the editors say she's "channelling Joni" would be enough to make it so. >> ________________________________ >> From: Stdoherty >> To: > joni@smoe.org >> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 6:12:35 AM >> Subject: Re: > onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 >> >> I don't think those photos of Swift as "Joni" > look like her at all - what's >> more - the clothes don't seem like her either. > This isjust bad all the way >> around. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 10:47:55 -0800 From: Betsy Subject: Similes and metaphors (Furry) Can I get the language lovers' comments on this similie-turned-metaphor? "Pawn shops glitter like gold tooth caps...They chew the last few dollars off Old Beale Street's carcass." Is this device common in Joni's or others' writing? I feel like it draws in the listener or reader very effectively. Betsy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 21:07:28 -0500 (EST) From: Stdoherty Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 Right ... it looked like they were trying to tone down Twiggy by calling in Edie Sedgwick. Joni never relied on on Carnaby Street or the Factory scene to frame her style ... any eye for detail would have caught a little lace along the seam. - -----Original Message----- From: Bob.Muller To: Catherine McKay Cc: joni ; Stdoherty Sent: Tue, Nov 20, 2012 9:57 am Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 I didn't see it either, even though I tried to be open-mindedabout it> Same here...I squinted, looked at thepictures from a distance, and I NEVER saw much of a resemblance. Of course,makeup and costumes and special effects can make anything work. I say we're being SWIFTboated! Bob - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 16:42:19 +0000 From: Anita Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 Does anyone still have the link?Can't find original post Anita (coughing and spluttering with man flu) On 20 Nov 2012, at 15:01, Susan Tierney McNamara wrote: > I see this photo shoot as Taylor dressed in what the fashion industry thinks is the retro 70s look ... especially the shot where she is leaning on the chair in the dark beige wide leg creased pants. It makes her look more like Jean Shrimpton than Joni. > > Susan Tierney McNamara > email: sem8@cornell.edu > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Catherine McKay > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:37 AM > To: Stdoherty; joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 > > I didn't see it either, even though I tried to be open-minded about it. But, I suppose, for those who aren't familiar with Joni, simply having the editors say she's "channelling Joni" would be enough to make it so. >> ________________________________ >> From: Stdoherty >> To: > joni@smoe.org >> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 6:12:35 AM >> Subject: Re: > onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 >> >> I don't think those photos of Swift as "Joni" > look like her at all - what's >> more - the clothes don't seem like her either. > This isjust bad all the way >> around. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:00:26 -0500 From: jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com Subject: American Masters: David Geffen njc Starts now on PBS in the ET zone. Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 13:55:46 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Similes and metaphors (Furry) Are you speaking specifically about similes-turned-metaphors, or just both in general? She certainly uses both quite a bit on HOSL and Hejira. Bob From: Betsy To: joni@smoe.org Date: 11/20/2012 01:43 PM Subject: Similes and metaphors (Furry) Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org Can I get the language lovers' comments on this similie-turned-metaphor? "Pawn shops glitter like gold tooth caps...They chew the last few dollars off Old Beale Street's carcass." Is this device common in Joni's or others' writing? I feel like it draws in the listener or reader very effectively. Betsy - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 17:21:50 +0000 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: Graham Nash and Blue Interesting ... well if Graham Nash doesn't know which songs off Blue are written about him, how bold of us to think we know!!! :-) Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Shari Eaton Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 11:39 AM To: joni@smoe.org LIST Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 "This is the frustration we have to endure: younger people with different priorities take control of the culture which we experienced first-hand and, whether innocently or cynically, re-write it for their own world." Well written, David. Looks like the role isn't confirmed anyhow. She sure is milking it though. http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/taylor-swift-joni-mitchell-biopic-rol e-not-confirmed-20121022 There is other Joni news. Graham Nash wrote a book in which he speaks of his experience with her. http://www.showbiz411.com/2012/11/15/graham-nash-listening-to-joni-mitchells- blue-is-quite-difficult-for-me-personally Shari On Nov 20, 2012, at 7:01 AM, Susan Tierney McNamara wrote: > I see this photo shoot as Taylor dressed in what the fashion industry > thinks is the retro 70s look ... especially the shot where she is leaning on the chair in the dark beige wide leg creased pants. It makes her look more like Jean Shrimpton than Joni. > > Susan Tierney McNamara > email: sem8@cornell.edu > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Catherine McKay > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:37 AM > To: Stdoherty; joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 > > I didn't see it either, even though I tried to be open-minded about > it. But, I suppose, for those who aren't familiar with Joni, simply having the editors say she's "channelling Joni" would be enough to make it so. >> ________________________________ >> From: Stdoherty >> To: > joni@smoe.org >> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 6:12:35 AM >> Subject: Re: > onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 >> >> I don't think those photos of Swift as "Joni" > look like her at all - what's >> more - the clothes don't seem like her either. > This isjust bad all the way >> around. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 06:36:56 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 I didn't see it either, even though I tried to be open-minded about it. But, I suppose, for those who aren't familiar with Joni, simply having the editors say she's "channelling Joni" would be enough to make it so. >________________________________ > From: Stdoherty >To: joni@smoe.org >Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 6:12:35 AM >Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 > >I don't think those photos of Swift as "Joni" look like her at all - what's >more - the clothes don't seem like her either. This isjust bad all the way >around. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:01:07 +0000 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 I see this photo shoot as Taylor dressed in what the fashion industry thinks is the retro 70s look ... especially the shot where she is leaning on the chair in the dark beige wide leg creased pants. It makes her look more like Jean Shrimpton than Joni. Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Catherine McKay Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:37 AM To: Stdoherty; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 I didn't see it either, even though I tried to be open-minded about it. But, I suppose, for those who aren't familiar with Joni, simply having the editors say she's "channelling Joni" would be enough to make it so. >________________________________ > From: Stdoherty >To: joni@smoe.org >Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 6:12:35 AM >Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 > >I don't think those photos of Swift as "Joni" look like her at all - what's >more - the clothes don't seem like her either. This isjust bad all the way >around. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 12:44:01 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 Of course! Which is exactly what those durned younger people do! I can sort of remember my Dad getting annoyed, particularly in anything dealing with WWII, by how his generation (The Greatest) was sometimes portrayed in "modern" movies or TV shows - I mean, the ones made in the 60s and 70s. Let's face it - - like it or not, we're the old people now. (And I can hear Smurf saying, "Especially you, McKay!") >________________________________ > From: David Lahm >To: Catherine McKay >Cc: joni@smoe.org >Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:48:31 AM >Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 > > >This is the frustration we have to endure: younger people with different priorities take control of the culture which we experienced first-hand and, whether innocently or cynically, re-write it for their own world. > > > DAVID LAHM > > >On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Catherine McKay wrote: > >I didn't see it either, even though I tried to be open-minded about it. But, I >>suppose, for those who aren't familiar with Joni, simply having the editors >>say she's "channelling Joni" would be enough to make it so. >>>________________________________ >>> From: Stdoherty >>>To: >>joni@smoe.org >>>Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 6:12:35 AM >>>Subject: Re: >>onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 >> >>> >>>I don't think those photos of Swift as "Joni" >>look like her at all - what's >>>more - - the clothes don't seem like her either. >>This isjust bad all the way >>>around. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 06:12:35 -0500 (EST) From: Stdoherty Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 I don't think those photos of Swift as "Joni" look like her at all - what's more - the clothes don't seem like her either. This isjust bad all the way around. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 08:38:33 -0800 From: Shari Eaton Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 "This is the frustration we have to endure: younger people with different priorities take control of the culture which we experienced first-hand and, whether innocently or cynically, re-write it for their own world." Well written, David. Looks like the role isn't confirmed anyhow. She sure is milking it though. http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/taylor-swift-joni-mitchell-biopic-rol e-not-confirmed-20121022 There is other Joni news. Graham Nash wrote a book in which he speaks of his experience with her. http://www.showbiz411.com/2012/11/15/graham-nash-listening-to-joni-mitchells- blue-is-quite-difficult-for-me-personally Shari On Nov 20, 2012, at 7:01 AM, Susan Tierney McNamara wrote: > I see this photo shoot as Taylor dressed in what the fashion industry thinks is the retro 70s look ... especially the shot where she is leaning on the chair in the dark beige wide leg creased pants. It makes her look more like Jean Shrimpton than Joni. > > Susan Tierney McNamara > email: sem8@cornell.edu > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Catherine McKay > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:37 AM > To: Stdoherty; joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 > > I didn't see it either, even though I tried to be open-minded about it. But, I suppose, for those who aren't familiar with Joni, simply having the editors say she's "channelling Joni" would be enough to make it so. >> ________________________________ >> From: Stdoherty >> To: > joni@smoe.org >> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 6:12:35 AM >> Subject: Re: > onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 >> >> I don't think those photos of Swift as "Joni" > look like her at all - what's >> more - the clothes don't seem like her either. > This isjust bad all the way >> around. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:45:17 -0600 From: LC Stanley Subject: Re: Sweet Bird Hi Jane! Welcome! Sweet Bird is my favorite song by Joni. I have wondered if she composed it while laying in the sun on a sandy beach. Its good to have you here with us. Love, Laura On Nov 16, 2012, at 6:40 PM, Jane Cox wrote: > This work is beyond words, although all your words have moved me. I > listened to it on headphones and heard the two guitar parts, of which I am > assuming she performed both. The sound engulfs my mind and the words make > me long for something I cannot describe. It is a work of great passion. > PS I am new to this list. Hello to all! Jane ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2012 #1702 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------