From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2012 #1694 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, November 17 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 1694 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Sweet Bird [Bob Muller ] Re: New Donald Fagen NJC [Bob Muller ] Re: Sweet Bird 100% JC [Bob Muller ] Joni Covers #155 - Petra-fied [Bob Muller ] Springsteen bios, NJC [jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com] RE: joni sporcle game [Susan Tierney McNamara ] Re: Sweet Bird 100% JC [Sally ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #390 [Stdoherty ] funeral song? ["Eaton, Shari" ] RE: Sweet Bird, 100% JC [Susan Tierney McNamara ] Re: Sweet Bird, 100% JC ["Mark" ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #391 [Stdoherty ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 05:46:41 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Sweet Bird Hiya Jane, and thanks for the intro. Feel free to give us some more bio when and if you like. Fresh voices here are always welcome. Bob ________________________________ From: Jane Cox To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 7:40 PM Subject: Sweet Bird This work is beyond words, although all your words have moved me. I listened to it on headphones and heard the two guitar parts, of which I am assuming she performed both. The sound engulfs my mind and the words make me long for something I cannot describe. It is a work of great passion. PS I am new to this list. Hello to all! Jane ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 05:40:54 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: New Donald Fagen NJC It's OK, pretty predictable. Not as good as Morph The Cat but not as bad as Kamakiriad. Bob ________________________________ From: "jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com" To: Bob Muller ; JMDL Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 12:42 AM Subject: New Donald Fagen NJC How is the new disc from Donald Fagen, Sunken Condos? Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 05:54:00 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Sweet Bird 100% JC Well of course I'm reading silly Sally! :-) And yes, there are others... STAS has NOT (no Pirate of Penance) Clouds, Blue, LOTC, Court & Spark, HOSL, Hejira - all have been completely covered. As soon as someone releases an "Electricity" cover we can add FTR to the list. "Underneath The Streetlights" is all that WTRF lacks. Don't think we'll ever put DED and CMIARS on the list. Speaking of covers - a retro edition is right around the corner. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 06:44:42 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Joni Covers #155 - Petra-fied And here it is...only it's *not* a retro edition (I did one of those last weekend and lost track) but rather a brand spanking new batch. And speaking of HOSL covers, the very first cover of Shadows and Light is here, and it's in German! Cool. The singer Petra gives us not one, not 2, not 3 but FOUR different versions of BSN...In Dutch ("Samengaan"), French ("Avec Un Homme"), English, and unplugged. Lea Michele from Glee offers up her cover of River, just in time for the holidays. A couple other Rivers as well. A few from Japan and a few from old vinyl make this another hodge podge to be thankful for. And no leftovers! The cornucopia: http://tinyurl.com/cgtn8mv The courses: 1. Lee Hye Won - Both Sides Now 2. Laura Day - A Case Of You 3. Samara Yung - Big Yellow Taxi 4. Lea Michele - River 5. Jeff Severson - Woodstock 6. Petra - Both Sides Now 7. Petra - Samengaan (Unplugged) 8. Petra - Samengaan (Dutch) 9. Petra - Avec un Homme (French) 10. Lana Bruce - Big Yellow Taxi 11. Mark Lasley - River 12. Andy Robinson - For Free 13. Lupa - Goodbye Pork Pie Hat 14. Kelly Kellner - Big Yellow Taxi 15. Lee Bach - Shadows And Light (German) 16. Brian Marshall - Both Sides Now 17. Lee & Lindsey Smith - River 18. Steve Grimmett - This Flight Tonight 19. Jos - Woodstock 20. Longview - River 21. Sayaka Kushibiki - Big Yellow Taxi 21 songs, 21 hits! Enjoy. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 13:52:40 -0500 From: jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com Subject: Springsteen bios, NJC According to an article by David Wilson, published in Bloomburg News, Dave Marsh wrote 2 biographies on Springsteen: "Born To Run" and "Glory Days". Apparently there is a new one, written by Peter Ames Carlin, called "Bruce". Has anyone read them? Jim L Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 21:09:47 +0000 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: joni sporcle game Wow, I nailed this, I'm proud to say. 47 out of 47 with 3:34 minutes to spare. I almost got stumped on more bang bang ketchup color. That was fun, thanks Paul!!! Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of PMeyer Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 11:54 AM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: joni sporcle game I am just putting the finishing touches on a new Joni game on Sporcle.com. Here is the (modified) link, if you'd like to beta test it: www dot sporcle.com/games/joniphile/joni_mitchell_phrases It was fun to make. Hope also to play. Paul ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 22:24:45 -0500 From: Sally Subject: Re: Sweet Bird 100% JC :D I too get so excited about the analysis of this music...all of it!!! I joined the list not long ago and have revisited so much of it because of the references here. I got back onto DJRD because of a remark that someone made in passing. I loved the stats that Bob provided about HOSL and the cover status thereof. Amazing how much has been covered. If you're reading Bob, are there any other albums in which all of the tracks have been covered by other artists? And Stdoherty...how awesome is that, you reconsidered Sweet Bird! Its such a major piece of work and yet, it's very simple. Maybe therein lies the genius. Maybe thats why it is sometimes overlooked. Damn...now I'm going to have to hit "replay" on that myself! LOL! ;D Peace, Sally On Nov 16, 2012, at 9:02 PM, Stdoherty wrote: I'm gonna commit a sin .. if this post was on facebook I'd be all over the like button. But since I get more than I thumbs up icon - I'll add that this is what makes JMDL so wonderful. Love this take on a song I was pretty neutral on. Another careful listen on deck. > Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 23:33:43 -0500 > From: Sally > Subject: Re: Sweet Bird, 100% JC > > Hi all! > > Just enthusiastically dropping back in on this topic...what I consider Joni's > most brilliant work. > I was interested in what you said Jim, about the fade in at the beginning of > the > song. It lends a dream-like quality of timelessness to the thing, right? > Like > we don't know where we are in the story if in fact there even is a story but > it > doesn't matter anyway. It's like it's been playing forever and we just got > dropped in at some random point. The genius of that is mind-blowing! I think > that it winds up in much the same way. When she begins singing, "guesses > based > on what each set of time and change is touching", she puts the phrasing breaks > at a different point each time, and it ends up running together the end of one > line, into the beginning of the next...so that we feel rushed in one sense, > and > slowed down in another sense. It gives us a feeling about the passing of time > in an uncertain way I think. It's a freaking brilliant lesson in great > writing, > great playing, and inspired execution. > > This seems like a very deeply felt spiritual track...seems like Joni is > looking > at the passing of time and the futility of our efforts to find truth in the > limited time we have to do it. I get this "is there a god?" feeling from it. > And we get the answer..."sweet bird of time and change/you must be laughing/up > on your feathers laughing". > As I said originally, this track even hundreds of plays later is very moving > to > me. Sometimes it's an out of body thing and rather than hear it, I hear the > truth behind it. Even though Hejira is my favorite record, for me this track > is > the pinnacle of JM's songwriting and musicianship...it's Joni hitting the apex > and finding the center of what is... > Beautiful! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 21:02:00 -0500 (EST) From: Stdoherty Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #390 Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 23:33:43 -0500 From: Sally Subject: Re: Sweet Bird, 100% JC Hi all! Just enthusiastically dropping back in on this topic...what I consider Joni's most brilliant work. I was interested in what you said Jim, about the fade in at the beginning of the song. It lends a dream-like quality of timelessness to the thing, right? Like we don't know where we are in the story if in fact there even is a story but it doesn't matter anyway. It's like it's been playing forever and we just got dropped in at some random point. The genius of that is mind-blowing! I think that it winds up in much the same way. When she begins singing, "guesses based on what each set of time and change is touching", she puts the phrasing breaks at a different point each time, and it ends up running together the end of one line, into the beginning of the next...so that we feel rushed in one sense, and slowed down in another sense. It gives us a feeling about the passing of time in an uncertain way I think. It's a freaking brilliant lesson in great writing, great playing, and inspired execution. This seems like a very deeply felt spiritual track...seems like Joni is looking at the passing of time and the futility of our efforts to find truth in the limited time we have to do it. I get this "is there a god?" feeling from it. And we get the answer..."sweet bird of time and change/you must be laughing/up on your feathers laughing". As I said originally, this track even hundreds of plays later is very moving to me. Sometimes it's an out of body thing and rather than hear it, I hear the truth behind it. Even though Hejira is my favorite record, for me this track is the pinnacle of JM's songwriting and musicianship...it's Joni hitting the apex and finding the center of what is... Beautiful! I'm gonna commit a sin .. if this post was on facebook I'd be all over the like button. But since I get more than I thumbs up icon - I'll add that this is what makes JMDL so wonderful. Love this take on a song I was pretty neutral on. Another careful listen on deck. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 13:59:39 -0800 From: "Eaton, Shari" Subject: funeral song? I've really enjoyed the Sweet Bird talk. I watched a video of Joni with band playing Sweet Bird live. It was titled Sweet Bird of Youth though  which I thought gave a little hint to its meaning. Sweet Bird would be a great choice for a funeral song, imo. but also Shine. Every time I hear Shine I think ... wow what a great song for an ending. Thoughts? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 22:54:44 +0000 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: Sweet Bird, 100% JC This is also one of my favorite songs, and I play it often. It's another one of her songs that I play as a meditation, the chord progression is very methodical and percussive so it can move back and forth like bobbing in water. Also, I have never quite perfected her slapping solo at the interlude between verses. It's something you can't think about, you just have to feel it. I go places during this song. Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 5:19 PM To: scd8556@aol.com> Cc: JMDL Subject: Sweet Bird, 100% JC Me too. Even the beginning of the song, the way it fades IN rather than fading out sounds strange, as if it is playing backwards. The piano meanders around, as if it was recorded backwards. When Joni starts singing >>out on some borderline she does that strange drop on "line" that seems other worldly. Then she starts talking about youth as if she was beyond life and death. It is as if she in the great beyond, remembering what Life was like. For me, it is eerie but also comforting. That track is beyond words. Jim L >Sally said, in part, Taken as a whole, for me that track is almost like an out of body experience. I find that sometimes when I listen to it, it's as if I don't actually hear it...rather I understand the complete truth in it. It's very moving for me...even hundreds of plays later. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:47:34 -0800 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: Sweet Bird, 100% JC Count me among the admirers of 'Sweet Bird'. Some of you may remember a piece I wrote for a JMDL writing contest many years ago that used the song as its jumping off point. 'Out on some borderline Some mark of in-between I lay down golden in time And woke up vanishing' There was something about this song that appealed to me way back in my 20s. Now that I'm 58, it resonates more than ever. The passage of time seems to have been unbelievably swift and I often feel like I went to sleep somewhere along the way and 'woke up vanishing'. My favorite lines, however, are these: 'Give me some time I feel like I'm losing mine Out here on this horizon line With the earth spinning and the sky forever rushing...' That image of being 'out here on this horizon line with the earth spinning and the sky forever rushing' can still bring on stirrings of the heart and mind that make me emotionally and mentally dizzy. The Circle Game played out at such a speed and to a place it was impossible for me to imagine back there behind from where I came when I first heard 'Sweet Bird'. It is nothing less than another deeply felt, exquisitely expressed mediation on the passage of time from a woman who is a genius in her art. Jim, you described the music and the feeling of the song so beautifully. It is beyond words. Mark in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 2:18 PM To: scd8556@aol.com> Cc: JMDL Subject: Sweet Bird, 100% JC Me too. Even the beginning of the song, the way it fades IN rather than fading out sounds strange, as if it is playing backwards. The piano meanders around, as if it was recorded backwards. When Joni starts singing >>out on some borderline she does that strange drop on "line" that seems other worldly. Then she starts talking about youth as if she was beyond life and death. It is as if she in the great beyond, remembering what Life was like. For me, it is eerie but also comforting. That track is beyond words. Jim L >Sally said, in part, Taken as a whole, for me that track is almost like an out of body experience. I find that sometimes when I listen to it, it's as if I don't actually hear it...rather I understand the complete truth in it. It's very moving for me...even hundreds of plays later. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 16:07:00 -0500 (EST) From: Stdoherty Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #391 All the Sweet Bird talk and I needed to do another tour ... so I just listened to Hissing while running on this beautiful fall day ... I've always been fond of Hissing but don't listen to it that much. It's a wonderful album, so glad to use the opportunity ... and yes Sweet Bird (as filtered through the loving and smart ears of JMDLers) is quite a song. Look for top fifteen next year. - -----Original Message----- From: onlyJMDL Digest To: onlyjoni-digest Sent: Sat, Nov 17, 2012 3:20 am Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #391 onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, November 17 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 391 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - ------- RE: joni sporcle game [Susan Tierney McNamara ] Re: Taylor Swift as Joni [Sally ] Re: Sweet Bird, 100% JC [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] RE: Sweet Bird, 100% JC [Susan Tierney McNamara ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #390 [Stdoherty ] funeral song? ["Eaton, Shari" ] RE: Sweet Bird, 100% JC [Susan Tierney McNamara ] Re: Sweet Bird 100% JC [Sally ] - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 21:09:47 +0000 rom: Susan Tierney McNamara ubject: RE: joni sporcle game Wow, I nailed this, I'm proud to say. 47 out of 47 with 3:34 minutes to spare. almost got stumped on more bang bang ketchup color. That was fun, thanks aul!!! Susan Tierney McNamara mail: sem8@cornell.edu -----Original Message----- rom: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of PMeyer ent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 11:54 AM o: joni@smoe.org ubject: joni sporcle game I am just putting the finishing touches on a new Joni game on Sporcle.com. Here is the (modified) link, if you'd like to beta test it: www dot porcle.com/games/joniphile/joni_mitchell_phrases It was fun to make. Hope also to play. Paul - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 22:07:53 -0500 rom: Sally ubject: Re: Taylor Swift as Joni Hey Cassy! Thanks for that. Vague resemblance and I mean VAGUE!!! Whatever! Any word on hat Joni thinks about the choice of TS to depict her in this film? I seriously as not a fan of the book and cringe at the possibilities of the movie daptation. :0 Peace, ally Sent from Confunction Junction on my iPhone On Nov 16, 2012, at 9:05 PM, "Cassy" wrote: > For those of you who aren't on Facebook, here is a link to the Bazaar ictorial Taylor has done. According to this article she is "channeling" Joni: http://hollywoodlife.com/2012/11/12/taylor-swift-harpers-bazaar-december-201 2-cover-pics-joni-mitchell/#utm_source=copypaste&utm_campaign=referral Cassy - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 09:09:20 -0500 rom: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com ubject: Re: Sweet Bird, 100% JC That *is* a noteworthy point, presented as if to say that the song about he passage of time has been playing forever and is just getting the olume turned up at this point in time. Sweet Bird is a brilliant song, and although rarely covered it was one of he earliest ones (by Lani Hall). HOSL is one of the rare Joni albums here EVERY song has been covered by someone, thanks to Bjork's Boho Dance n the Joni tribute in 2007. For the trainspotters out there: In France - (10), first one in 1976 ungle Line - (4), first one in 1983 dith & The Kingpin - (31), first one in 1976 on't Interrupt The Sorrow - (3), first one in 2007 hades Of Scarlett - (7), first one in 1992 issing of Summer Lawns - (9), first one in 1978 oho Dance - (1), released in 2007 arry's House - (3), first one in 1992 weet Bird - (3), first one in 1977 hadows & Light - (10), first one in 1980 Happy Friday to all my Hippie JMDL friends! 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Susan Tierney McNamara mail: sem8@cornell.edu -----Original Message----- rom: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Dave lackburn ent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 10:50 PM o: Mark c: Dave Blackburn; jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com; scd8556@aol.com; JMDL ubject: Re: Sweet Bird, 100% JC I find the guitar/piano break fascinating; the way it speeds up the tempo and kips a beat, like a heart palpitation. And the lagoon of disembodied voices hat swirl. It is inspired record making. On Nov 15, 2012, at 6:47 PM, "Mark" wrote: > Count me among the admirers of 'Sweet Bird'. Some of you may remember a piece wrote for a JMDL writing contest many years ago that used the song as its umping off point. 'Out on some borderline Some mark of in-between I lay down golden in time And woke up vanishing' There was something about this song that appealed to me way back in my 20s. ow that I'm 58, it resonates more than ever. The passage of time seems to have een unbelievably swift and I often feel like I went to sleep somewhere along he way and 'woke up vanishing'. My favorite lines, however, are these: 'Give me some time I feel like I'm losing mine Out here on this horizon line With the earth spinning and the sky forever rushing...' That image of being 'out here on this horizon line with the earth spinning and he sky forever rushing' can still bring on stirrings of the heart and mind that ake me emotionally and mentally dizzy. The Circle Game played out at such a peed and to a place it was impossible for me to imagine back there behind from here I came when I first heard 'Sweet Bird'. It is nothing less than another eeply felt, exquisitely expressed mediation on the passage of time from a woman ho is a genius in her art. Jim, you described the music and the feeling of the song so beautifully. It s beyond words. Mark in Seattle -----Original Message----- From: jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 2:18 PM To: scd8556@aol.com> Cc: JMDL Subject: Sweet Bird, 100% JC Me too. Even the beginning of the song, the way it fades IN rather than fading out sounds strange, as if it is playing backwards. The piano meanders around, as if it was recorded backwards. When Joni starts singing >> out on some borderline she does that strange drop on "line" that seems other worldly. Then she starts talking about youth as if she was beyond life and death. It is as if she in the great beyond, remembering what Life was like. For me, it is eerie but also comforting. That track is beyond words. Jim L > Sally said, in part, Taken as a whole, for me that track is almost like an out of body experience. I find that sometimes when I listen to it, it's as if I don't actually hear it...rather I understand the complete truth in it. It's very moving for me...even hundreds of plays later. - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 21:02:00 -0500 (EST) rom: Stdoherty ubject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #390 Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 23:33:43 -0500 rom: Sally ubject: Re: Sweet Bird, 100% JC Hi all! Just enthusiastically dropping back in on this topic...what I consider Joni's ost brilliant work. was interested in what you said Jim, about the fade in at the beginning of he ong. It lends a dream-like quality of timelessness to the thing, right? ike e don't know where we are in the story if in fact there even is a story but t oesn't matter anyway. It's like it's been playing forever and we just got ropped in at some random point. The genius of that is mind-blowing! I think hat it winds up in much the same way. When she begins singing, "guesses ased n what each set of time and change is touching", she puts the phrasing breaks t a different point each time, and it ends up running together the end of one ine, into the beginning of the next...so that we feel rushed in one sense, nd lowed down in another sense. It gives us a feeling about the passing of time n an uncertain way I think. It's a freaking brilliant lesson in great riting, reat playing, and inspired execution. This seems like a very deeply felt spiritual track...seems like Joni is ooking t the passing of time and the futility of our efforts to find truth in the imited time we have to do it. I get this "is there a god?" feeling from it. nd we get the answer..."sweet bird of time and change/you must be laughing/up n your feathers laughing". s I said originally, this track even hundreds of plays later is very moving o e. Sometimes it's an out of body thing and rather than hear it, I hear the ruth behind it. Even though Hejira is my favorite record, for me this track s he pinnacle of JM's songwriting and musicianship...it's Joni hitting the apex nd finding the center of what is... eautiful! 'm gonna commit a sin .. if this post was on facebook I'd be all over the ike button. But since I get more than I thumbs up icon - I'll add that this s what makes JMDL so wonderful. Love this take on a song I was pretty eutral on. Another careful listen on deck. - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 13:59:39 -0800 rom: "Eaton, Shari" ubject: funeral song? I've really enjoyed the Sweet Bird talk. I watched a video of Joni with band laying Sweet Bird live. It was titled Sweet Bird of Youth though which I hought gave a little hint to its meaning. Sweet Bird would be a great choice for a funeral song, imo. but also Shine. very time I hear Shine I think ... wow what a great song for an ending. Thoughts? - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 22:54:44 +0000 rom: Susan Tierney McNamara ubject: RE: Sweet Bird, 100% JC This is also one of my favorite songs, and I play it often. It's another one of er songs that I play as a meditation, the chord progression is very methodical nd percussive so it can move back and forth like bobbing in water. Also, I ave never quite perfected her slapping solo at the interlude between verses. t's something you can't think about, you just have to feel it. I go places uring this song. Susan Tierney McNamara mail: sem8@cornell.edu -----Original Message----- rom: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of lhommedieu@insight.rr.com ent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 5:19 PM o: scd8556@aol.com> c: JMDL ubject: Sweet Bird, 100% JC Me too. Even the beginning of the song, the way it fades IN rather than fading ut sounds strange, as if it is playing backwards. The piano meanders around, as f it was recorded backwards. When Joni starts singing >out on some borderline she does that strange drop on "line" that seems other worldly. Then she starts alking about youth as if she was beyond life and death. It is as if she in the reat beyond, remembering what Life was like. For me, it is eerie but also omforting. That track is beyond words. Jim L >Sally said, in part, Taken as a whole, for me that track is almost like an out of body experience. find that sometimes when I listen to it, it's as if I don't actually hear t...rather I understand the complete truth in it. It's very moving for e...even hundreds of plays later. - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 22:24:45 -0500 rom: Sally ubject: Re: Sweet Bird 100% JC :D I too get so excited about the analysis of this music...all of it!!! I oined the list not long ago and have revisited so much of it because of the eferences here. I got back onto DJRD because of a remark that someone made in assing. loved the stats that Bob provided about HOSL and the cover status thereof. mazing how much has been covered. If you're reading Bob, are there any other lbums in which all of the tracks have been covered by other artists? nd Stdoherty...how awesome is that, you reconsidered Sweet Bird! Its such a ajor piece of work and yet, it's very simple. Maybe therein lies the genius. aybe thats why it is sometimes overlooked. Damn...now I'm going to have to hit replay" on that myself! LOL! ;D Peace, ally n Nov 16, 2012, at 9:02 PM, Stdoherty wrote: I'm gonna commit a sin .. if this post was on facebook I'd be all over the ike button. But since I get more than I thumbs up icon - I'll add that this s what makes JMDL so wonderful. Love this take on a song I was pretty eutral on. Another careful listen on deck. Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 23:33:43 -0500 From: Sally Subject: Re: Sweet Bird, 100% JC Hi all! Just enthusiastically dropping back in on this topic...what I consider Joni's most brilliant work. I was interested in what you said Jim, about the fade in at the beginning of the song. It lends a dream-like quality of timelessness to the thing, right? Like we don't know where we are in the story if in fact there even is a story but it doesn't matter anyway. It's like it's been playing forever and we just got dropped in at some random point. The genius of that is mind-blowing! I think that it winds up in much the same way. When she begins singing, "guesses based on what each set of time and change is touching", she puts the phrasing breaks at a different point each time, and it ends up running together the end of one line, into the beginning of the next...so that we feel rushed in one sense, and slowed down in another sense. It gives us a feeling about the passing of time in an uncertain way I think. It's a freaking brilliant lesson in great writing, great playing, and inspired execution. This seems like a very deeply felt spiritual track...seems like Joni is looking at the passing of time and the futility of our efforts to find truth in the limited time we have to do it. I get this "is there a god?" feeling from it. And we get the answer..."sweet bird of time and change/you must be laughing/up on your feathers laughing". As I said originally, this track even hundreds of plays later is very moving to me. Sometimes it's an out of body thing and rather than hear it, I hear the truth behind it. Even though Hejira is my favorite record, for me this track is the pinnacle of JM's songwriting and musicianship...it's Joni hitting the apex and finding the center of what is... 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