From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2012 #1634 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, October 28 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 1634 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #1622 [Shari Eaton ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 19:45:29 -0700 From: Shari Eaton Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #1622 For those of you who want to save your ears, I gave Taylor Swift's RED a listen and it's shit. Vocoders, no range, predictable, american idol-esque *BURST* of "emotion". She sounds like a child with an unsure and trembling voice. Sorry for the profanity but I feel it is a suitable description. On a positive note, I had a dream this morning that I was walking around a city cafe locale and an establishment was playing one of Join's more obscure songs on a sound system that did it proper justice. It was something off of Mingus or Don Juan's Reckless Daughter. I sang along, reeling with happiness as her music graced the scene. I wish that would happen in real life. Lots of Joni, Shari On Oct 28, 2012, at 1:49 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: > I've heard a few Taylor Swift songs because a friend of my daughter's is a fan > and made my daughter go with her to her last concert here in Toronto. Although > I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, and I haven't given the songs > on "Red" a listen, so I suppose I should before mouthing off, but I really > don't think Ms Swift can hold a candle to Joni and that she has a LONG way to > go before ever (if ever) coming close to the maturity, poetry and musicality > of Ms Mitchell. Even looking at the fact that Joni's earlier stuff may have > been folk/pop, Taylor Swift's music is much more poppy and much more > commercial than Joni's ever was. She has the young'uns screaming and tearing > out their hair a la Justin Bieber, so she does seem to represent some kind of > teenage girl angst very well. In my opinionated opinion and having heard her > sing live a few times on TV, the girl really isn't all that great a singer > live, and Joni could always sing. Taylor Swift > is only 22, so she has some years to go yet before reaching anything like > maturity and we live in different times, where 30 is the new 20, and the music > industry really is that starmaker machinery Joni has been railing about lo > these many years, and I wonder if Joni's like will ever come around again and, > if it does, will anyone embrace it? > > So, I hold my kneejerk bitchiness in > check (slightly) and will perhaps cringingly listen to the songs on "Red" and > try to do so without prejudice. Judging by the name and cover art, it does > appear that Ms Swift is trying to imitate the best, which is either a salute > to one of her heroines, or a cynical bid to suggest she's in that league. >> ________________________________ >> From: TERRY COOK >> To: joni@smoe.org >> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 3:51:00 PM >> Subject: Re: > JMDL Digest V2012 #1622 >> >> just wondering if anyone else out there caught the > joni references in rolling stone's review of taylor swift's new album "red." > first off, most blatantly, the reviewer stated that this, her fourth, album is > her "joni mitchell-influenced maturity binge." later the review states that > swift often succeeds in "joining the joni/carole king tradition of > stark-relief emotional mapping." finally, the last sentence of the review > concludes that "when she's really on, her songs are like tattoos." >> i don't > know taylor swift. in my ignorance(and i admit my ignorance),i have a hard > time believing that ms. swift is anywhere close to being in the same category > with joni mitchell. >> >> tc ............................................................................. .............. Shari Eaton visual designer . art director ............................................................................. .............. Shari Eaton Design 415.361.8708 . www.sharieaton.com ............................................................................. .............. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2012 #1634 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------