From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2012 #1631 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, October 28 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 1631 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #1622 [Catherine McKay ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 13:49:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #1622 I've heard a few Taylor Swift songs because a friend of my daughter's is a fan and made my daughter go with her to her last concert here in Toronto. Although I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, and I haven't given the songs on "Red" a listen, so I suppose I should before mouthing off, but I really don't think Ms Swift can hold a candle to Joni and that she has a LONG way to go before ever (if ever) coming close to the maturity, poetry and musicality of Ms Mitchell. Even looking at the fact that Joni's earlier stuff may have been folk/pop, Taylor Swift's music is much more poppy and much more commercial than Joni's ever was. She has the young'uns screaming and tearing out their hair a la Justin Bieber, so she does seem to represent some kind of teenage girl angst very well. In my opinionated opinion and having heard her sing live a few times on TV, the girl really isn't all that great a singer live, and Joni could always sing. Taylor Swift is only 22, so she has some years to go yet before reaching anything like maturity and we live in different times, where 30 is the new 20, and the music industry really is that starmaker machinery Joni has been railing about lo these many years, and I wonder if Joni's like will ever come around again and, if it does, will anyone embrace it? So, I hold my kneejerk bitchiness in check (slightly) and will perhaps cringingly listen to the songs on "Red" and try to do so without prejudice. Judging by the name and cover art, it does appear that Ms Swift is trying to imitate the best, which is either a salute to one of her heroines, or a cynical bid to suggest she's in that league. >________________________________ > From: TERRY COOK >To: joni@smoe.org >Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 3:51:00 PM >Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #1622 > >just wondering if anyone else out there caught the joni references in rolling stone's review of taylor swift's new album "red." first off, most blatantly, the reviewer stated that this, her fourth, album is her "joni mitchell-influenced maturity binge." later the review states that swift often succeeds in "joining the joni/carole king tradition of stark-relief emotional mapping." finally, the last sentence of the review concludes that "when she's really on, her songs are like tattoos." >i don't know taylor swift. in my ignorance(and i admit my ignorance),i have a hard time believing that ms. swift is anywhere close to being in the same category with joni mitchell. > >tc ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2012 #1631 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------