From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2012 #1524 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, October 5 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 1524 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: herjira music video [Shari Eaton ] Re: herjira music video [Jussi Pukkila ] Re: Hejira to Madeira (Ruby Lake) - Anita's Tale (quite long) [Phyliss Wa] fb conversation... fka: Joni's art ["Pat Boland" ] herjira music video ["Eaton, Shari" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #1517 - my Ruby Lake story [LC Stanley Subject: Re: herjira music video I'm heading to bed now but I'll upload for you tomorrow! I thought it was odd too. Someone in the comments mentioned it might have been a promotional tool for the ballet dancer they used. Not convinced though. There must be backstory somewhere we could dig up. When she mentioned being a bird two lives ago .. I don't know it just makes me tear up to see her beating her beautiful wings. Lots of Joni, Shari On Oct 4, 2012, at 9:27 PM, Jussi Pukkila wrote: > Oh, it's a copyright thing. I get a quick warning that the clip is not available in my country, after which the page switches to playing "Blue Motel Room" with just the album cover photo. Not much wing flapping in that "video"... > > Could someone save the clip (with keepvid.com) and send it to me as a file? I would really like to see it... It's curious that they made a video for the track when it wasn't a single - why not for Black Crow? > > --jussi > > > Shari Eaton wrote: >> It works for me. Alternatively, you could go to YouTube and type in Herjira music video. >> >> >> >> On Oct 4, 2012, at 8:49 PM, Jussi Pukkila wrote: >> >> >>> I only see the album cover, no video. Is that the correct link? >>> >>> --jussi >>> >>> >>> Eaton, Shari wrote: >>> >>> >>>> i hadn't seen this so thought i'd send it along: >>>> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg7F2-rYXno&feature=BFa&list=AL94UKMTqg-9C0AEs w9AaFkKcM0VAuebDx >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> i love watching her flap her wings : ) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 07:27:51 +0300 From: Jussi Pukkila Subject: Re: herjira music video Oh, it's a copyright thing. I get a quick warning that the clip is not available in my country, after which the page switches to playing "Blue Motel Room" with just the album cover photo. Not much wing flapping in that "video"... Could someone save the clip (with keepvid.com) and send it to me as a file? I would really like to see it... It's curious that they made a video for the track when it wasn't a single - why not for Black Crow? - --jussi Shari Eaton wrote: >It works for me. Alternatively, you could go to YouTube and type in Herjira music video. > > > >On Oct 4, 2012, at 8:49 PM, Jussi Pukkila wrote: > > > >>I only see the album cover, no video. Is that the correct link? >> >>--jussi >> >> >>Eaton, Shari wrote: >> >> >> >>>i hadn't seen this so thought i'd send it along: >>> >>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg7F2-rYXno&feature=BFa&list=AL94UKMTqg-9C0AEsw9AaFkKcM0VAuebDx >>> >>> >>> >>>i love watching her flap her wings : ) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 20:01:54 -0400 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: Re: Hejira to Madeira (Ruby Lake) - Anita's Tale (quite long) Thanks for the lovely story Anita! I will take credit for the title! For those who are not aware, the area Ruby Lake is in is called Madeira Park.., Phyliss ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 12:33:24 +1000 From: "Pat Boland" Subject: fb conversation... fka: Joni's art Ya know, it's hard to really communicate my experience of being Joni's friend to people but I knew her from when I was 16 to 18, from 1966 to 1968, and when you hang out with someone that much, that long, you get to know them, how they are, what they would do... for example, Joni had guys from record companies coming to all her shows trying to get her to sign what she called an 'Elvis contract' all the time. That kind of contract would obligate the artist to so many singles and albums per year and she just wouldn't put her art on the assembly line like that. Now remember, she was trekking all over the country, alone, on trains and planes and busses while only getting 1$-3$ cover charges at places like the Cellar that could only hold 50 or 60 people! Lucky to have enough $ to eat! All she had to do was sign her name on the line and she could've been traveling by limo, but no, not Joni. Having the freedom for her art was all she cared about and she would not compromise or back down for anything or anyone! When I say I knew Joni, it's true mostly because she made herself known... to me, to anyone, to everyone! That's just how she was and how she is.
Just look at the fire in her eyes in this video as she stands up for her art:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-ECjPZ2f8o&feature=colike Here is another of her sharing her heart on the subject... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTDEsT8kkMI&feature=colike Larry W Smart lady. Not binding herself to a label contract and possibly losing the publishing rights to all of her wonderful songs as so many other artists did. Ask Little Richard just to name one. Plus, when you contracted to a label you are constrained to play time limits on every track. Which I believe would have and still does restricts air play on most radio stations with exception of public radio, college and University operated stations. Thanks Joni. Your decision saved your real creative voice. Pat Boland You're right Larry. I guess that was the 'standard contract'. They even offered me one! In my case I probably should've taken it but I followed Joni's lead. Geez, I coulda been elevator music by now! LoL!!! Rae D I have my own Label because I know thru my music and God that these companies are not soul y for the Artist They think becaue they can dump a land fill of money in your back pocket you owe them. Companies and big time managament may feel entitled, thinking you owe them your celeb status> your lyrics and your melodies which feed the poor suffering souls out in the mainstream world > which may have been born out of pure intent and genuine Mystical experience of your Muse and because they give you a bus a few posters and a radio show or tv spot you still owe them a tour with out proper allowance and they probably gave you the wrong players that they pic for your music and then the sound does not compliment your record. Joni has a great advantage being a painter most live quietly to themselves and she has a great love for words and expression for almost classical type of wording. Missy T Pat, I have read this entry several times...a wonderful story of your friendship with Joni. Your description of her is exactly how I would imagine her to be. In a word, Real. A poet, artist and musician with this gift that just keeps on giving. Her words and music inspire, soothe, nurture, heal and fill me with hope for the human race. And to think you are a friend. How fantastic. Thanks for sharing the memories here. :) Karen B I find the Isle of Wight video very disturbing. She is so upset. You can tell she actually didn't enjoy playing these huge venues and I don't blame her. It's disturbing that guy managed to get so close to her on stage. Toni W The late 60's explained in eight minutes, 25 seconds. (I was there, maaaan!) Carrington R She so fucking rocks! She handled it like a pro though! NOBODY is gonna mess with her, and she makes damn sure of it! ♥ Thank you Joni ♥ Pat Boland Wow Missy, you really speak your heart well! It's great to know that what I shared here has touched someone so. That's really my whole reason for doing it. I am SO fortunate to have been then and there! I have to share my good fortune! If I can bring someone closer to her, I feel like I've somehow lived up to it... Typically Joni would arrive on a Friday, play the night, (I played the interim set) and then, the next day she would bring her guitar down to the coffeehouse where I was staying, where i was all alone, and spend the afternoon rehearsing and writing and sometimes I'd just sit and listen, sometimes we would jam. Sometimes we'd talk and she even taught me some of her songs. Understand, I wasn't with "JONI MITCHELL", I was just hanging out with one of the gang, a really pretty and talented chick who also liked me and my music and who I had a kind of crush on, though her being 22 to my 17, it was more of a 'hot for teacher' kind of thing. She just *turned out* to be Joni... later! LoL!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 15:56:19 -0700 From: "Eaton, Shari" Subject: herjira music video i hadn't seen this so thought i'd send it along: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg7F2-rYXno&feature=BFa&list=AL94UKMTqg-9C0AEsw9AaFkKcM0VAuebDx i love watching her flap her wings : ) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 20:37:44 -0700 (PDT) From: LC Stanley Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #1517 - my Ruby Lake story Thanks Deanna for your beautiful sharing and reminding me about the bonfire and all. I was there too. It was other worldly. Did it really happen?! What a beautiful place on earth this area is. No wonder Joni picked it! Love, Laura ________________________________ From: Susan Tierney McNamara To: Deanna Knight ; "joni@smoe.org" Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2012 3:42 PM Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2012 #1517 - my Ruby Lake story Welcome Deanna! Thanks so much for joining and adding your Ruby Lake story! I will visit your website. :-) Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Deanna Knight Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 1:59 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2012 #1517 - my Ruby Lake story Hello Folks I am new to this list but not new to Joni and her magical musical journey. As a artist myself, she is by far my biggest inspiration and cherished songwriter. I was sad to see the first few posts on here and thought this might all be critics and gossip about Joni...her aging, songs that folks don't like or how she doesn't "have it" anymore. I'm thrilled to hear stories of Ruby Lake as I was also there and hope to read more and more of the good stuff. She is human and we all age... in body, mind and spirit, some more gracefully than others. Her jaw dropping body of work is stunning and she is not a human jukebox of hits. Nuff said :) I met Giorgio and the Ruby Lake folks back several years ago. When I heard of the dinner and film viewing (while eavesdropping in the grocery line) I dashed home to check it out. Seems I was 6 hours late as Giorgio had just posted on Facebook that it was sold out. I emailed, called and messaged to see if I could get on a waiting list right away. We waited patiently and on the Thursday night prior to the event, I left a sliver of light when I agreed to babysit a friend's daughter. I told her that it was slim but I MAY be going to Ruby Lake for a special event with Joni Mitchell. Seconds after hanging up the phone I got a call from the Resort saying I WAS IN!!! My husband and I were so thrilled...I was over the moon. We also prepared a card for her just in case we didn't get a chance to speak face to face. A beautiful goddess with a spiral dress that spun into thousands of butterflies. I hope she liked it. I package that up with a couple of my CD's as a thank you. Not sure she will give it a listen but I like the idea that she will. My solo CD is a healing journey more than anything and she was very much a part of that spiritual journey. I also met her just outside when she first arrived. I had thought long and hard of what I would say and just hoped to keep it together and not embarrass myself. I was resistant to approach her as she had just arrived and didn't want to crowd her right off the bat. \A friend took my full plate of food and pushed me toward her. I have met many "stars" in my life though I must say I was "star struck" I got through one sentence when my emotions surfaced and tears rolled down my cheek. She opened her arms wide and said "hug me" After one of the most grounding and memorable hugs of my life. I felt much better. My husband snapped photos with tears and all. Not the most glamorous photos but a moment I will never forget. We had a couple more nice conversations and I must say she is still very powerful, smart as a whip, full of life, charm and wisdom. She seemed in good spirits and good health. Even with the ENDLESS photo flashes she seemed to enjoy her interaction with fans. She is building another home on her land and settling in even deeper to the Sunshine Coast... where she spends half the year. She still pays her taxes in the US but says her heart is in Canada :) You can see some pics on FB is you want to track my fan page down. Hope this was not too long of a post but wanted to share my story. I had a very strong feeling I would someday meet Joni but could never have imagined such a magical Fall Equinox. With the gorgeous setting, huge bonfire and air infused with white sage and lavender, it was literally beyond my wildest dreams. Endless blessings to dear Joni Mitchell. D www.deannaknight.ca - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni-digest@smoe.org] Sent: October-04-12 9:28 AM To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2012 #1517 JMDL Digest Thursday, October 4 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 1517 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #1516 ["Gary Hanick" ] - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 09:26:56 -0700 From: "Gary Hanick" Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #1516 What a beautiful story and how fortunate you are!! Sent from my iPad On Oct 4, 2012, at 9:18 AM, "JMDL Digest" wrote: > > JMDL Digest Thursday, October 4 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 1516 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Hejira to Madeira (Ruby Lake) - Anita's Tale (quite long) [Anita G > > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 17:14:52 +0100 > From: Anita G > Subject: Hejira to Madeira (Ruby Lake) - Anita's Tale (quite long) > > Leading up to the Ruby Lake expedition, there was a JMDL thread about > what people might say or not say if they met Joni. I said I wasnt > going to plan but try to be there and trust what came. As I have > alluded to already, I am not sure that I did a very good job. > > After the 10 hour flight to Vancouver and on the way to the Ruby Lake, > I began to ask myself more and more why I was going and what for? The > owl had called us to go to the Lake. I was concerned as I knew some of > the beliefs about Death associated with their call, so I did wonder if > it was to say good-bye. Whatever had made us decide to go, I thought I > would buy some sunflowers for Joni and we stopped in Sechelt and > shopped. I wanted to give Joni something that she might enjoy, at > least for a couple of days and flowers seemed a good idea. On seeing > Joni the next day, I was delighted to see that she far from dead was, > in fact, very much alive and not far off kicking. > > When we first arrived at Ruby Lake and met the Cogrossi family and all > the staff, they could not have been kinder or more helpful. We noticed > a signed, framed print of Taming the Tiger hung on the wall of the > restaurant, along with a poster advertising one of the Joni and Bob > Dylan concerts. It was a very good place for us to land. Giorgio > loved the story of the owl calling us to go to Ruby Lake. He told us > that, on Jonis 60th birthday meal held at the Lake, she had released > an owl that Aldo had rehabilitated. Joni had stroked the owl for ten > minutes or so before releasing it and it flew up on to the Italian > flag pole where it sat for a long time before flying away. Steph, with > her usual dry wit, said I dont think it was the same one. > > Giorgio had mentioned that day on an email that he would be choosing > some folk to go and pay tribute to Joni at the end of the event , but > I had an idea that he knew whom he wanted to do that job, so I thought > it unlikely Id get a chance so I decided I would write something to > give to her. After all, wed gone all that way, so I might as well try > and find a few words. I wrote Joni a card and taped it to the > sunflowers. The card said: > > Dear Joni > In case I am not one of the fortunate ones to be called up to pay you > a tribute, this is what I wanted to say: > > Eleven nights ago an owl screeched at my window more or less telling > me to cross the Atlantic and come to Ruby Lake. Now I know why. > > In 1968, when I was 14 years old, my brother Michael came home from a > concert in London. He said he had seen this Lady Singer he thought I > would like and he promised to buy me her first album, which he did. > > 44 years later, I can tell you that for me and countless others, > Joni's music has been the soundtrack to our lives, supporting and > challenging us in equal measure. > > The owl has brought me here to give me the chance to say thank you > Joni for finding words for me when I had none. Bless you, and may your > road be always charmed. > > With love > Anita x > > The next day, the day of the gig, the weather was really grim. Grey, > heavy drizzle and cloud made visibility really poor, but Steph and I > ventured up the amphitheatre where the event was to be held and, even > in the greyness, it was magical. We breathed it all in and decided it > would be good to see if we do anything to help out, but, although > there must have been tons to do, Giorgio and Aldo didnt assign us any > tasks, so we spent a really fun afternoon with Phyllis and Bob making > lanterns out of paper bags to light at the amphitheatre. It was one of > those things where you find yourself with people who are good at art > and your own efforts look like those of an untalented three year old. > Honestly, Phyllis and Bob were turning them Mothers out as though > Banksy or Picasso were related to them. There were lanterns that said > JMDL and I have seen a beautiful close up photo somewhere of Bobs (or > was it Phylisss?) Hejira to Madeira. A majestic lantern! We were > joined by Pearl, Cassy and Laura and we sang, drank tea and made more > lanterns. The laughter and fun of that afternoon is one of the great > memories I will cherish. > > Five oclock came closer and the sun came out! It was an astonishing > turn around. The JMDLers had been given a table outside overlooking > the lake near to where Joni would be having her meal. We had a drink > and near six, Joni arrived. When I first saw her, she reminded me of > images painted by my friend Carolyn Hillyer. Carolyn painted a series > of circle of thirteen archetypal grandmothers and Joni could have been > one of them. Although these images of grandmothers arent available on > line, if you scroll down through her and her husband, Nigels, work, > to the Northern Sisterhood of Drums you might get the sense of her > paintings and the drift: > > http://www.facebook.com/note.php?saved&&suggest,e_id=134070774102 > > People started moving up to go for the wonderful barbecue of organic, > wild sockeye salmon and prawns with salad. The JMDL group were invited > to join the queue for food. Steph said to me I must go and get my > camera to photograph this beautiful fare. She was gone for some time > and then rushed over and excitedly said You must come now, you must > come now. Im with Joni > > It transpired that Giorgio, who seemed to really like Steph, had > grabbed her by the hand and introduced her to Joni. It was then that > Steph said ' Joni, I am so pleased to meet you, but my friend likes > you more than I do' When Joni laughed , Steph said 'I didn't mean it > quite like that, but can I go and get her?' and Joni said yes, of > course. So Steph grabbed me and we went back. It was Steph who took me > to Paris when I first met Joni and it had been Steph that took me to > Edmonton when I met Joni again and here she was this time introducing > me TO Joni! Joni commented on how far wed come just to be there and I > was about to embark on chat when Steph said ' Come on, Anita, you have > always wanted to tell Joni what she means to you. Nows your chance. > I remember starting to say pretty much what I had written on the card > about my brother coming home from London, that I was fourteen, hed > bought me her first album but then everything is blank. I don't > remember anything else. Not a single word. Not even a glimmer .. > There is absolutely nothing in my memory whatsoever until Joni took my > hand and said 'Isnt this a beautiful place?' And I kept saying 'Yes > it is......it is very beautiful I felt a wee bit mesmerised. Joni > looked around, took a breath and quietly and slowly said again This > is such a beautiful place. > > Steph, Joni and I talked a little about how we planned to do some > walking and bird watching and then my time with Joni was finished. I > dont quite know what happened. I dont remember much of it, but Steph > tells me that I said more or less what I said on my card and that I > did take my chance to thank her. However, the experience of meeting > Joni has left my bones telling me that the present really is all we > have. Everything happens in the here and now. I am no longer 14. 1968 > has gone. I wanted to be fully present with Joni and I wasnt. Joni > simply was presence. > > - ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2012 #1516 > ****************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- - ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2012 #1517 ****************************** - ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe - ------- ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2012 #1524 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------