From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2012 #1401 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, September 16 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 1401 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Conversations with Her Joniness [Lori Fye ] Re: Conversations with Joni [Lori Fye ] Retro Covers #71; If at First you don't succeed... [Bob Muller ] Re: Conversations with Joni (NJC) [Dave Blackburn ] Re: Conversations with Joni (NJC) [Anita G ] Re: Conversations with Joni (NJC) [Dave Blackburn ] Conversations with Her Joniness [est86mlm@ameritech.net] Re: Conversations with Joni (NJC) [LC Stanley ] Re: Conversations with Joni (NJC) [Anita G ] Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #1396 [LC Stanley ] Re: Watch Out For This! - September 22 & Joni [Catherine McKay ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 12:47:20 +0200 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: Conversations with Her Joniness Ah, and now I see that Laura has already sent Anita's wonderful description of her experiences to the list ... and I have no excuse, because I receive individual posts! :-) Lori Dotzheim ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 12:45:59 +0200 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: Conversations with Joni I'm sending this to the list again without the N*JC because it's a good conversation about actually meeting Joni. This part struck me, especially: > It was one of the most important experiences of my life > as the exchange became one human being talking with > another about something very simple. I think, personally, that Joni probably tires of all the adoration and would truly appreciate a normal conversation with a fan about everyday things. I would like to think that, should I ever be so lucky to meet Joni, I would remember what I always tell myself about everyone: we all put our pants on one leg at a time. Joni is a person, first. She just happens to be a brilliant songwriter, musician, singer, and painter (and who knows what else). Maybe, because I've had the good fortune to have worked for some "famous" people, I just see everyone as a person who does "this" or "that" for a living or as a passionate hobby or whatever. But they are all still just everyday people, in the end, and I would enjoy having a conversation with Joni about cold remedies. Besides, you never know what song or painting might come of it. :-) Lori Dotzheim On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Anita wrote: I really understand the enormity of the feelings behind the possibilty of > meeting Joni.I have had the great good fortune,as a fan,to have met Joni > twice.The first time I was almost overwhelmed as I didn't know how I would > find words.Joni was most gracious and kind and helped me out.I found my > tongue when I realised she had a cold and we talked cold remedies.It was > one of the most important experiences of my life as the exchange became one > human being talking with another about something very simple.In my life,it > taught me about the ordinary being extraordinary, sometimes. It wasn't a > smart or clever exchange, but I learned a great deal personally from it.The > second meeting was completely different.Joni was cold free :-) and we > talked about what she was doing and she asked a little about Steph and I. > > The problem with planning what to say,for me at least,is that it takes me > away from the moment and I am not fully present so miss the moment of > meeting.So I am planning on not planning! > > For each of us who get to Ruby Lake,we have to listen and trust ourselves. > That way,if one or more get the chance to talk with Her Joniness, the right > words will come,whether it be a discussion about Nietzche or Vick cold > remedies. My experience has taught me there's room for both and they hold > equal value. > Anita ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 06:55:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Retro Covers #71; If at First you don't succeed... Didn't see this show up, sorry if it got sent twice. Covers #71 coming atcha. http://tinyurl.com/8wz97rw 1. Hip Graffiti - Woodstock/Fragile 2. Dennis Caplinger - Big Yellow Taxi 3. Yr Awr - Hyn O Fyd (BSN-Welsh) 4. Carol Grimes - Two Grey Rooms 5. Joellen Lapidus - Carey 6. Good Egg - A Case Of You 7. Shirley McDonald - Both Sides Now 8. Viveka Davis - Both Sides Now 9. Artists In Resonance - Woodstock 10. Masaki Ueda - Both Sides Now 11. Ellen Metzger - Two Grey Rooms 12. Ellen Metzger - Both Sides Now 13. Take Five - The Circle Game 14. Take Five - Chelsea Morning 15. Take Five - Both Sides Now 16. Restless Wind - Night In The City 17. The Movin' Dream Orchestra - Both Sides Now 18. Connie Champagne - A Case Of You 19. Lisa Asher - Both Sides Now Enjoy, Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 10:12:22 -0400 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: Re: Conversations with Joni (NJC) Beautifully said Anita. I did not prepare the first time I met her either, for the same reasons, and I was a blithering idiot. Joni was sitting. She stood up and hugged me to calm me down. I would like to at least have a possible opening line... The first time I met her was before PWWAM was taped but we had heard it was possible. When calmed down I asked about that and we ultimately were able to attend. How amazing that so many years later we will be revisiting that incredible evening with her! On a humorous note....I could ask what she thinks of Taylor Swift possibly playing her in a movie...LOL! That might get her going. Ya think? Phyliss On Sep 15, 2012, at 4:16 PM, Anita wrote: > I really understand the enormity of the feelings behind the possibilty of meeting Joni.I have had the great good fortune,as a fan,to have met Joni twice.The first time I was almost overwhelmed as I didn't know how I would find words.Joni was most gracious and kind and helped me out.I found my tongue when I realised she had a cold and we talked cold remedies.It was one of the most important experiences of my life as the exchange became one human being talking with another about something very simple.In my life,it taught me about the ordinary being extraordinary, sometimes. It wasn't a smart or clever exchange, but I learned a great deal personally from it.The second meeting was completely different.Joni was cold free :-) and we talked about what she was doing and she asked a little about Steph and I. > > The problem with planning what to say,for me at least,is that it takes me away from the moment and I am not fully present so miss the moment of meeting.So I am planning on not planning! > > For each of us who get to Ruby Lake,we have to listen and trust ourselves. That way,if one or more get the chance to talk with Her Joniness, the right words will come,whether it be a discussion about Nietzche or Vick cold remedies. My experience has taught me there's room for both and they hold equal value. > Anita ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 10:24:58 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Conversations with Joni (NJC) "Ooh, a bit nippy up 'ere on the island eh luv? Did you bring yer cardi? ere, you can borrow me muffler 'n I'll put the kettle on." On Sep 16, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Anita G wrote: > On 16/09/2012, Dave Blackburn wrote: >> Now, if you were English, the conversation starter would be obviousthe >> weather! > > Dave, having said I wouldn't plan what I'd say, you have at the very > least given me some idea of where this particular English woman should > start if I am stuck for words. What do you think of 'So, Joni, what's > the weather like over here on the Sunshine Coast?" > Love > Anita x ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 06:45:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Conversations with Joni There's a guy up here who has a TV show on CBC. His name is George Stroumboulopoulos and much of his show is interviewing people - politicians, musicians, actors, bookwriters, athletes and so on. I've been to the taping of his show a few times and he always asks the audience (either before or after the taping) if they have any questions for him. People often ask him if he ever gets nervous or intimidated by people he's going to interview. He said that he doesn't have that gene and that he's never nervous or intimidated. He says you should talk to people just like you're having a conversation with someone on the bus. I think it shows because he's very personable and casual and friendly and people open up to him. And, for Joni content, while you're waiting to go into the studio, they pass out cards for people to fill out so they can sign up for emails, let Strombo know what you're reading and listening to and so on. One question they ask is, who would you like to see George interview. And, of course, each and every time I've filled out one of those cards, I always say Joni. Not just because I'm a Joni fan, but I think that George and Joni would get along like a house on fire. He's a good-looking young man (he's 40 now, but looks younger) and I think that Joni would like him a lot. I do hope they ask her for an interview and that she gives him one! >________________________________ > From: Lori Fye >To: joni@smoe.org >Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 6:45:59 AM >Subject: Re: Conversations with Joni > >I'm sending this to the list again without the N*JC because it's a good >conversation about actually meeting Joni. > >This part struck me, especially: > >> It was one of the most important experiences of my life >> as the exchange became one human being talking with >> another about something very simple. > >I think, personally, that Joni probably tires of all the adoration and >would truly appreciate a normal conversation with a fan about everyday >things. I would like to think that, should I ever be so lucky to meet >Joni, I would remember what I always tell myself about everyone: we all >put our pants on one leg at a time. Joni is a person, first. She just >happens to be a brilliant songwriter, musician, singer, and painter (and >who knows what else). Maybe, because I've had the good fortune to have >worked for some "famous" people, I just see everyone as a person who does >"this" or "that" for a living or as a passionate hobby or whatever. But >they are all still just everyday people, in the end, and I would enjoy >having a conversation with Joni about cold remedies. > >Besides, you never know what song or painting might come of it. :-) > >Lori >Dotzheim ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 18:02:58 +0100 From: Anita G Subject: Re: Conversations with Joni (NJC) Hi Phyllis I think your story about Joni's kindness to you is lovely and it certainly is quite amazing that you will be re visiting this time in your life with her. And if an opening gambit about Taylor Swift feels right if you meet Joni, then that's the way to go. I have to say it would be wasted on me because I still have no idea who TS actually is.......... Anita (probably still in the Dark Ages, now known as BF....Before Facebook) PS Thank you for your kind words about my post. On 16/09/2012, Phyliss Ward wrote: > Beautifully said Anita. > > I did not prepare the first time I met her either, for the same reasons, and > I was a blithering idiot. Joni was sitting. She stood up and hugged me to > calm me down. I would like to at least have a possible opening line... > > The first time I met her was before PWWAM was taped but we had heard it was > possible. When calmed down I asked about that and we ultimately were able to > attend. How amazing that so many years later we will be revisiting that > incredible evening with her! > > On a humorous note....I could ask what she thinks of Taylor Swift possibly > playing her in a movie...LOL! That might get her going. Ya think? > > Phyliss > > On Sep 15, 2012, at 4:16 PM, Anita wrote: > >> I really understand the enormity of the feelings behind the possibilty of >> meeting Joni.I have had the great good fortune,as a fan,to have met Joni >> twice.The first time I was almost overwhelmed as I didn't know how I would >> find words.Joni was most gracious and kind and helped me out.I found my >> tongue when I realised she had a cold and we talked cold remedies.It was >> one of the most important experiences of my life as the exchange became >> one human being talking with another about something very simple.In my >> life,it taught me about the ordinary being extraordinary, sometimes. It >> wasn't a smart or clever exchange, but I learned a great deal personally >> from it.The second meeting was completely different.Joni was cold free :-) >> and we talked about what she was doing and she asked a little about Steph >> and I. >> >> The problem with planning what to say,for me at least,is that it takes me >> away from the moment and I am not fully present so miss the moment of >> meeting.So I am planning on not planning! >> >> For each of us who get to Ruby Lake,we have to listen and trust ourselves. >> That way,if one or more get the chance to talk with Her Joniness, the >> right words will come,whether it be a discussion about Nietzche or Vick >> cold remedies. My experience has taught me there's room for both and they >> hold equal value. >> Anita ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:26:48 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Conversations with Joni (NJC) Now, if you were English, the conversation starter would be obviousthe weather! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 14:55:41 +0100 From: Anita G Subject: Re: Conversations with Her Joniness On 16/09/2012, est86mlm@ameritech.net wrote: >> So, which Nietzsche were you referring to? The philosopher or her cat of > the same name? =^..^=Raaaarrrrrre! LOL > > Laura Hi Laura It's the man who lives up the top of my road, Mr Nietzche, Anita (trying to cover her inability to spell) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 03:06:30 -0500 From: est86mlm@ameritech.net Subject: Conversations with Her Joniness Anita, Thanks for sharing the story of meetings with Joni, twice. I know what you mean about planning takes from the moment and not being fully present. You expressed that so well! Personally, I am fearful of babbling or tongue-tied......at least until I get started anyway. It's hard I would think, initially, not to think about the greatness of Joni, and simply not idolize "Her Joniness, (love that!). I think it would help to talk about something more mundane....like cough drops! So, which Nietzsche were you referring to? The philosopher or her cat of the same name? =^..^=Raaaarrrrrre! LOL Laura *********For those 'nervous' moments*********** Dove Clear Tone Deodorant Sample (If you have trouble moving the form along, click the F5 key on your keyboard. This will refresh your page and get the form working. http://samples.target.com/ From: Anita I really understand the enormity of the feelings behind the possibilty of meeting Joni.I have had the great good fortune,as a fan,to have met Joni twice.The first time I was almost overwhelmed as I didn't know how I would find words.Joni was most gracious and kind and helped me out.I found my tongue when I realised she had a cold and we talked cold remedies.It was one of the most important experiences of my life as the exchange became one human being talking with another about something very simple.In my life,it taught me about the ordinary being extraordinary, sometimes. It wasn't a smart or clever exchange, but I learned a great deal personally from it.The second meeting was completely different.Joni was cold free and we talked about what she was doing and she asked a little about Steph and I. The problem with planning what to say,for me at least,is that it takes me away from the moment and I am not fully present so miss the moment of meeting.So I am planning on not planning! For each of us who get to Ruby Lake,we have to listen and trust ourselves. That way,if one or more get the chance to talk with Her Joniness, the right words will come,whether it be a discussion about Nietzche or Vick cold remedies. My experience has taught me there's room for both and they hold equal value. Anita ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 07:22:39 -0500 From: LC Stanley Subject: Re: Conversations with Joni (NJC) Lori, I read nothing offensive in Paul's tone. Email is email so tone can be perceived even more differently than spoken words I suppose. There is such a difference in the perception of something a southerner and a northerner says here in Arkansas. I'd be prejudiced against both if I heard things either way so I try not to. Tone deaf. Numb but not dumb. Love, Laura On Sep 15, 2012, at 5:56 AM, Lori Fye wrote: > << I happen to agree with Paul. We're not best friends with Joni. We are > fans. I wouldn't ask her about her bowling, grand kids, cats. I've only > briefly met her once, just to say hello. From those who I know who've had > longer conversations with her, she pretty much controls the conversation. > For those who "might" get to meet her, I'd say just tell her how much her > music, writing, and artistry has meant to you. If it gets further than > that, let it just flow. >> > > I don't necessarily disagree with Paul, but I very much disagreed with > Paul's tone in his initial response. > > That aside, to each their own during a conversation with Joni. Whatever > flows, flows. Besides, right here, in this forum, we are just sharing our > thoughts and ideas about what might happen "if" -- and it's a pretty big > "if." There is no harm in dreaming, and in sharing those dreams with our > friends here. > > Lori > Dotzheim ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 17:57:41 +0100 From: Anita G Subject: Re: Conversations with Joni (NJC) On 16/09/2012, Dave Blackburn wrote: > Now, if you were English, the conversation starter would be obviousthe > weather! Dave, having said I wouldn't plan what I'd say, you have at the very least given me some idea of where this particular English woman should start if I am stuck for words. What do you think of 'So, Joni, what's the weather like over here on the Sunshine Coast?" Love Anita x ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 14:31:27 -0500 From: LC Stanley Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #1396 Thanks Cindy! On Sep 15, 2012, at 2:46 AM, "Cindy Casey, RN" wrote: > Laura, I just think that is so cool that you are going. I hope that all of you who plan to go have a great time. Really I don't think topics of conversation will be an issue. Joni is not a woman of a few words. Bon Voyage! > > Cindy > > > Sent from my iPad. > > On Sep 14, 2012, at 10:27 PM, owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) wrote: > >> >> JMDL Digest Friday, September 14 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 1396 >> >> >> >> ========== >> >> TOPICS and authors in this Digest: >> -------- >> Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #1385 [LC Stanley ] >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 20:23:16 -0700 (PDT) >> From: LC Stanley >> Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #1385 >> >> Hi Susan, >> >> I feel like I'm going to travel to the moon next week. I'll keep >> you posted. >> >> Love, >> Laura >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Susan >> Leviton >> To: joni@smoe.org >> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 >> 4:28 PM >> Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #1385 >> >> Hi, all. Please count me among >> the lurkers who only want to know that Joni is >> feeling healthy enough to be >> out among her fans these days, and if only for >> one rather rare event. Though >> quiet, I think many of us hope to hear that >> someone makes contact, and we will >> be happy to bask in the second-hand glow. >> I'll check next week and hope for >> whatever comes back! Thanks to those who >> will make the trek and bring the >> rest of us along! >> >> Susan >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 14, 2012, at 4:58 PM, JMDL Digest wrote: >>> >>> JMDL Digest Friday, September 14 2012 Volume 2012 : Number >> 1385 >>> >>> >>> >>> ========== >>> >>> TOPICS and authors in this Digest: >>> -------- >>> >> Re: Conversations with Joni [Phyliss S Ward >> ] >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 16:58:20 -0400 >>> From: Phyliss S Ward >> >>> Subject: Re: Conversations with Joni >>> >>> Thanks Betsy. >>> >>> I am so fortunate (and maybe just a bit nuts) to be able to travel so far >> just for this event. Thanks Anita and Steph for making me feel I am not the >> nuttiest! ;-) I have met Joni before, and trust me, you just have to get her >> started and let her do the rest. I will love listening to her talkin', >> chicken squakin'. I hope she is well and happy. I suspect she is or she >> would not be doing this pretty unusual event. I have no doubt she will be >> 'lovely' >>> >>> >>> On Sep 14, 2012, at 4:14 PM, Betsy >> wrote: >>> >>>> Joni has been interviewed many, many, many times. We are so lucky >> to have >> the archives. >>>> >>>> For those who may meet her next week, I send best >> wishes for an actual >> human interaction. If you speak with her and don't bring >> back any news other >> than "she was lovely" or "she was grumpy" I will still not >> be disappointed. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Betsy >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> >> End of JMDL Digest V2012 #1385 >>> ****************************** >>> >>> ------- >>> >> To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. >>> Unsubscribe by clicking >> here: >>> mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe >>> ------- >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of JMDL Digest V2012 #1396 >> ****************************** >> >> ------- >> To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. >> Unsubscribe by clicking here: >> mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe >> ------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 06:33:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Watch Out For This! - September 22 & Joni For those on Facebook, even if your settings are private, you can still make an album public, so it is possible to share Facebook photos with people who aren't on it. >________________________________ > From: "est86mlm@ameritech.net" >To: "joni@smoe.org" >Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 12:53:57 AM >Subject: Watch Out For This! - September 22 & Joni > >Be sure and check out the restaurant and resort for any >Paintings by Joni that may be hanging on the walls. If she >signed them look for a date next to her signature. Details, >please! > >It would be nice to see pictures of these too when your >posting pics for Dave and Gene....... > >Oh, and please don't forget those of us that are NOT on facebook. >It would be nice for us to be able to have a link to see these >pictures too not just for 'friends' (is that how FB photos work?) > >Laura ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 01:21:18 +0100 From: "John McGloin" Subject: RE: Meaning of life (NJC) Hi Anita What a lovely post. It captures the essence of what has been happening the past few weeks. I posted in response to LC's comment regarding expression. So often we think of expression in cerebral or artistic terms but for these athletes, especially the Paralympic athletes, the physical realm becomes a way of expression. I think it's also had a profoundly positive effect on our perception of people with disabilities. As you say, life enhancing and perhaps life changing. Cheers John - -----Original Message----- From: Anita G [mailto:lawntreader@googlemail.com] Sent: 10 September 2012 09:45 To: John McGloin Cc: LC Stanley; Shari Eaton; Joni List Subject: Re: Meaning of life (NJC) Hi John I was unsure whether or not to post about the Olympics, but you have given me 'permission' to add to what you have said. What an amazing, hope filled time it has been, with such great heart and spirit. I wonder if there might be a real change here in the UK? I was fortunate to have a lot of success with my friends in getting Olympics tickets and attended 3 lots of athletics,volleyball, beach volleyball, show jumping, weight lifiting and the women's modern pentathlon - the spirit on the streets was just fabulous, but nothing prepared me for the extraordinary life enhancing experience of the category one dressage at the Paralympics. Many of the riders were born with cerebral palsy and so the effort to stay up straight and steady on the horse was a challenge in itself. The riders and horses needed absolute quiet and stillness so that they were not distracted or frightening and so the 10,000 or so crowd were asked to not clap or cheer when the horses entered or left the arena. As the riders slowly and silently got through their routine of 20 or so walking moves around the square, a pin dropping would have been heard. As they finished, the crowd, holding on to the instinct to clap and cheer, opted to wave like mad at each rider and the rider, once back on the halter with a helper, often waved back. When that happened, we just waved and waved and waved at these riders with their wonderful horses. Sometimes, a rider and horse gave us permission to clap and cheer and, when that happened, it was competely deafening! I was blown away by a Canadian rider, Jody Schloss, whose effort to be able to sit upright on her horse and go through the routine defied belief. The waving was an unusual communication. Joni has the greatest gift with words, but this was wordless - yet the most beautiful I have been privileged to be part of. As we left Greenwich Park, feeling completely humbled and part of something so special, my partner Steph did a common chant used in the UK in football where an opposing team picks on a player and derides them in a fun way by asking them who they are. Steph used it to the crowd on the way out and we all joined in saying 'Usain Bolt? Oooo are ya?' We saw Usain Bolt run the 200 metres, but, throughout my remaining life, it's Jody Schloss in the dressage, so slow and stately, I will never,ever forget, Anita. On 10/09/2012, John McGloin wrote: > It's been a beautiful few weeks in London as well during the Olympics > and Paralympics. There has been such a buzz throughout the city and > the Games have been inspirational and life affirming, especially > considering the achievements we've witnessed on the part of the Paralympic athletes. > Cheers > John ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2012 #1401 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------