From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2012 #1260 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, September 1 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 1260 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni MItchell and Tom Jones ["Mark" ] Re: Joni Auction Items, Authentic? - YES! [Bob Muller ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 09:30:38 -0700 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: Joni MItchell and Tom Jones I also think that Tom looks like he is checking Joni out, so to speak. In comparison to Tom in his tux, Joni looks like she came from Butcher Holler and is wearing her Sunday best. Except for Joni's long, loose hair, she looks like she stepped out of the 19th century. Tom seems to be leering at her and she looks like an innocent. And Sue, you made me go back and click on that picture of Tom on his diving board. All I can say is oh my, my! Mark in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: Anita G Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2012 4:49 AM To: joni@smoe.org Cc: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: Re: Joni MItchell and Tom Jones Simon wrote: >> >Joni is holding a guitar, Tom is holding a >> tambourine and it sure looks like they're in the midst of singing. >> > I ain't so sure about that. Joni looks a bit traumatised to me. A bit like a rabbit in the headlights. Or perhaps she had just caught sight of herself in that green dress and is thinking 'I knew I should have gone for the pink.' I am also fairly positive that Tom is thinking 'MMmmmmm - so that's the hexagram of the Heavens' Or maybe others think differently - just what were they thinking? Anita ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 05:35:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Joni Auction Items, Authentic? - YES! This was a fascinating read, Simon - I'm a BIG fan of the LITTLE details such as you espouse in this post. Don't think twice, keep them coming. Bob ________________________________ From: "simon@icu.com" To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 10:14 PM Subject: Joni Auction Items, Authentic? - YES! Last Jan. a JMDL members wrote > Subject: Joni Auction Items - Authentic or Not? > Found these two items that were up for auction here. > (URL deleted, Auction Closed) > Do you think they are authentic Joni? This auction actually closed on Dec. 10, 2011. Both items went unsold (at that time). The minimum bid was $5,000.00 for the Lyrics and $3,000.00 for the Drawing. That's probably why there were no bidders. Both items are 100% Legitimate. Written and Drawn by the hand of Joni Mitchell. I've seen numerous examples of Joni's handwriting. You can view both items in a pdf.file - Item #1 available @ On page #1 you'll see the handwritten "For Free" lyrics offered at auction. On page #2 you'll see the handwritten "Real Good For Free" lyrics from 'MORNING GLORY ON THE VINE. They're obviously from the same hand. On page #3 you'll see the Drawing of Graham Nash reclining on a sofa. I sent a copy of this drawing to Joel Bernstein. Joel in turn eMailed a copy to Graham. Graham remembers the drawing, remembered Joni drawing it and certain other events of that day. Although this was a quickly-done informal drawing, it is in keeping with other pencil or felt pen drawings done during this period. Check out page #4 for several similar drawings from StarArt. Both items were relisted and Sold! by another auction firm earlier this year. The Lyrics sold for $1,625.00, and the Drawing sold for $2,048.00. Considering some the prices I've seen, these might be considered a bargain. Frankly, I was more than a little surprised by the question of authenticity. No reputable Auction Firm would do that which is suggested by the question. - - - - - - Steve Dulson pointed out > They LOOK authentic - but the lyrics look different than the handwritten ones in the LOTC LP. > There are also minor differences in the words - ""Cross" instead of "Across", for example. > One thing I wonder about is why Joni would write them out again - maybe a donation to a charity, > or something? They aren't a first draft or anything - the song (as she performed it in 1969) went > "...a black limousine and two white men..." > > It does look like the Joni flowery handwriting that we see from time to time. Steve is completely correct here. I had actually forgotten about that line "... a black limousine and two white men". According to my records, the earliest recording of "For Free" was at the MISSISSIPPI RIVER FESTIVAL in Edwardsville, Ill. on July 7, 1969. This concert was later broadcast by NET-TV as The SOUNDS OF SUMMER. It contains the line "... a black limousine and two white men". You can hear (download) a copy at the URL listed above. Item #2 There are -2- additional recordings that contain that line subsuquently changed to " ... a black limousine and Two Gentlemen". The NEWPORT FOLK FESTIVAL - July 19, 1969 and The DICK CAVETT SHOW - Aug. 18, 1969. The two gentlemen were Elliot Roberts and Graham Nash. They were occasionally accompanied by a high-school student named Joel Bernstein. - - - - - - Here's where it get interesting ... "For Free" is included in -3- of Joni's early SongBooks as "He Played Real Good For Free" 1. Ladies Of The Canyon 2. JONI MITCHELL: Songbook Complete volume number 1 (1966-1970) 3. Joni Mitchell Complete All three songbooks include -2- versions of "He Played Real Good For Free" In the 1st version the lyric is: "Cross the street he stood" and "a black limousine and two white men" In the 2nd version the lyric is: "Across the street he stood" and "a black limousine and two gentlemen" You can check out the -3- SongBooks for yourself at the URL listed above. Items #3, 4, & 5. - - - - - - I sometimes wonder about these long posts ... but send them anyway. Take Care. andmoreagain, - - - - - - - - - - simonM http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 14:31:55 -0700 (PDT) From: A Subject: Hi I'm new to the list Hi Joni Fans, Do any of you live near Ann Arbor Michigan? Ava ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2012 #1260 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------