From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2012 #1164 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, August 21 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 1164 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Judgment of the Moon and Stars [Kevin Foehr ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 18:47:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Foehr Subject: Re: Judgment of the Moon and Stars Hi Catherine, Thank you for your comment, and I'm happy that you see it similarly. I was thinking maybe I was alone in my view. Also, your analogy of the sculptor conveys the idea much better than my palette of paints. Whatever the "correct" interpretation, JOTMAS is, it is always among my very favorite Joni songs. This ebbs and flows a little, but I think JOTMASis probably always in the my three. Right at this moment, I'm thinking... LTISR, River, and JOTMAS. "... I'm gonna blow this damn candle out I don't want Nobody comin' over to my table I got nothing to talk to anybody about All good dreamers pass this way some day Hidin' behind bottles in dark cafes Dark cafes Only a dark cocoon before I get my gorgeous wings And fly away Only a phase, these dark cafe days" Feeling so blue was never more beautiful. Kevin F. From: Catherine McKay To: Kevin Foehr ; "joni@smoe.org" Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:11 AM Subject: Re: Judgment of the Moon and Stars Kevin, this is how I see/feel this imagery as well. I'm thinking of something I read about a sculptor who looks at a piece of granite (or whatever s/he is going to use for the next piece) and waits for it to reveal what is hidden inside before starting to chip away at it. >________________________________ > From: Kevin Foehr >To: "joni@smoe.org" >Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 8:04:11 PM >Subject: Judgment of the Moon and Stars > > >But conceal is >perfect here because it is first in the process, and thus it is not instantly >clear what this imagery means. The listener must stop and think, "What is >being concealed? And by what?" Then the listener can see the full picture: >what is concealed can be revealed by the artist. Conceal implies that here; >but reveal would not imply this process as clearly as it jumps directly to the >end product. And it highlights WHO can reveal what lies concealed within. >Broken trees and elephant ivories conceal the beauty and emotional power that >is possible. They are pure potential, like colors on a painter's pallette, >and it takes a great master to access that potential and reveal the beauty >that is possible. > >In my mind, moving from concealment to something revealed >is a much more poetic image than "seeing" the end of the process >(beauty revealed), and then MAYBE thinking about how that beauty was (is) >"concealed" to us mere mortals and is "revealed" by musical geniuses like Joni >and Beethoven. > > >Kevin F. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2012 #1164 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------