From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2012 #1026 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, July 22 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 1026 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Books on Joni's "weird chords" [Michael Paz ] Books on Joni's "weird chords" [Sam Stone ] Second Fret [Jussi Pukkila ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 12:54:00 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Books on Joni's "weird chords" Sam the best resource is on jonimitchell.com Marian Russell and Sue Mac and Howard Wright and many others have done exhauastive research on the subject. You will find detailed info on the tunings as well as tabs themselves Congrats on your topic. Be sure and publish it here on the JMDL for us to enjoy. Best of luck with the project. Link http://jonimitchell.com/music/guitar.cfm Best Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Cypress Recording Services Paz Music Production On Jul 21, 2012, at 12:22 PM, Sam Stone wrote: Hi JMDLers! I wrote about this about eight or so months ago but wanted to run this by you Joni experts again. Right now I'm working on a major project that essentially decides whether I pass my senior year of high school. It requires a 15-page report and an hour-long presentation on any subject of my choosing. I chose, of course, to write about Joni's guitar style. It's something I have become totally obsessed with and I am really excited to teach my peers about Joni's genius. But before I can do that, I'd really like your help. Are there any books and articles that relate directly to Joni's guitar style? So far I have bought Lloyd Whitesell's "Music of Joni Mitchell" and the printed out the excellent article from Acoustic Guitar magazine from August 1996. Also I have purchased the American Masters documentary by PBS. But there must be some other good books and articles or radio interview transcripts that relate to the subject. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance for your help and for being such a nice, welcoming group of folks. Sam ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 13:22:25 -0400 From: Sam Stone Subject: Books on Joni's "weird chords" Hi JMDLers! I wrote about this about eight or so months ago but wanted to run this by you Joni experts again. Right now I'm working on a major project that essentially decides whether I pass my senior year of high school. It requires a 15-page report and an hour-long presentation on any subject of my choosing. I chose, of course, to write about Joni's guitar style. It's something I have become totally obsessed with and I am really excited to teach my peers about Joni's genius. But before I can do that, I'd really like your help. Are there any books and articles that relate directly to Joni's guitar style? So far I have bought Lloyd Whitesell's "Music of Joni Mitchell" and the printed out the excellent article from Acoustic Guitar magazine from August 1996. Also I have purchased the American Masters documentary by PBS. But there must be some other good books and articles or radio interview transcripts that relate to the subject. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance for your help and for being such a nice, welcoming group of folks. Sam ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 03:13:54 +0300 From: Jussi Pukkila Subject: Second Fret Hi again, I'm still looking for the CD/wav version of the complete shows with the early tracks, with all the chatter intact between tracks. I got a "2-disc" set of mp3's - thanks Bob - 74 & 72 mins, but they are not the complete version I'm looking for. The problem is that I don't have track lists for Tape tree #1 and I can't make out what exactly the info on the tape covers refers to... To confuse things, I have one tape from one source/person and another tape from someone else, with differently laid out cover sheets. So maybe I'm really looking for the complete WMMR-FM broadcasts (of the Second Fret shows), titled "Early Joni" and/or "A 2 Hour Retrospective"..? It looks like the tapes might have both 2nd Fret and the radio shows. There is a 3xCD bootleg out the titled 'The Posall and the Mosalm' but it is not the same as what's on Tape Tree #1. It has great sound quality but not all the chatter between tracks. It looks like "CD2" on Bob's 2-disc set of mp3's is the same as the 2nd disc in the 'Posall+Mosalm', except P+M doesn't have the occasional fade in/out's. Am I right in thinking that recordings of the Second Fret shows were played on the radio shows (in the 70s) and that's where the material comes for the Trees? ( Sidenote: Years ago I had some other Trees on DAT tapes, which I then swapped for CDR copies - so maybe Tree #1 was also available on DAT? ) Here's an example of a track on the "2-disc" set of mp3's vs. what's on Tape Tree #1: 2-15 Sisotowbell Lane At the end of SL: "Tolkien.." fades out, then fades back in at "your chorus I guess it is" and then out again (about requests), track ends. Now, the Tape Tree has the complete talk part, without fades and continues into a long discussion, over 12 minutes, about old songs Joni wouldn't necessarily ever record (London Bridge, From Both Sides Now), England trip, sickness, Dr. John, Midway, California kitchen tuning, Arlo Guthrie movie, first album sound problems - followed by "The Gallery"... It's really nice stuff and I'd like to get all that on CD. - --jussi - - - - - - Hello I was a member of this group/list years ago and got some tapes (cassettes) from the Tape Tree. Recently I've listened to Joni a lot once again and also dug up the box with all those tapes. I did a little online searching and found out that the Second Fret sets, with all those early recordings, have been made available on CD(R) since and I'm wondering if it's still possible to get copies from someone. I found a torrent for the 3-disc The Posall and the Mosalm set, but noticed it's not entirely the same. My old tapes seem to have more material, especially chat between songs. A few questions come to mind: - - The Posall and the Mosalm set has really good sound quality - was the CD Tree (or whatever it was called) made from cassette copies or some better source? - - Has the complete "Just Like Me" been found? - --jussi ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2012 #1026 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------