From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2012 #60 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, January 29 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 060 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Hana Film [gerard mclaughlin ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 11:15:52 +0000 From: gerard mclaughlin Subject: Re: Hana Film cake of a thousand sheets. I just googled mille feuilles ! Now I intend to go buy some vanilla slice today. I'm going to watch White Banners again this week. Joan of Arc was famously terrifying to English soldiers . Apparently when they saw her white banner flying in the wind so many of them fled in fear that the king had to issue a warning to his men. So great was their fear that many didn't stop running until they got to the English Channel and onto a boat back to safety ! I guess as Hannah said in the film white banners give a much more powerful message than white flags do. On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 4:06 AM, c Karma wrote: > ...feuilles. Peel back the mille feuilles. What a filling, though. > > > CC > > ------------------------------ > Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 22:51:50 +0000 > Subject: Re: Hana Film > From: daligay@googlemail.com > To: sem8@cornell.edu > CC: ckarma@hotmail.com; joni@smoe.org > > Thanks very much for this wonderful wee film, cKarma. It has so many > things that resonate with me in regard to Joni. "Would you like to come in > where it's warm?" makes me think of "Come in from the cold." and I've heard > Joni talk of the importance of "having a good heart" which Hannah has in > spades in this movie.I sat in tonight and watched it and felt quite moved > thinking of Joni at this time and everything that has gone in to make her > the person she is including the heartbreak of living knowing your child is > growing up without you and the courage it must take to live with that. This > was a surprising and heartwarming story, quite inspirational.Lots of > thoughts for a good life/heart in it as well.Again, thankyou . > > On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Susan Tierney McNamara wrote: > > Oh I'm sure you are right ... my memory is foggy!! > > From: c Karma [mailto:ckarma@hotmail.com] > Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 2:32 PM > To: Susan Tierney McNamara; passscribe@aol.com; joni@smoe.org > Subject: RE: Hana Film > > Begging to differ on that. Geraldo came from WABC-TV Channel 7 where he > did > his breakthrough Willowbrook State Hospital story. I think Ernie started > at > WABC too (a Wiki search should end that speculation), but is now on WNYE > (formerly WNEW) Channel 5. Damn, Ernie has some FINE neckties. Do a > Google > search to refresh Ernie's on-air gaffe a few years ago. The video is > pretty > amusing. > > CC > ________________________________ > From: sem8@cornell.edu > To: ckarma@hotmail.com; > passscribe@aol.com; > joni@smoe.org > Subject: RE: Hana Film > Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 19:25:54 +0000 > Interesting!! There were three channels in NYC = WPIX - Channel 11 (showed > all the Yankee games); WOR-TV Channel 9; and Channel 5. I think it was the > Channel 5 news that introduced the star that would be Geraldo Rivera! > (plus > Ernie Anastos). > > From: c Karma [mailto:ckarma@hotmail.com] > Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 2:19 PM > To: Susan Tierney McNamara; passscribe@aol.com; > joni@smoe.org > Subject: RE: Hana Film > > My first recollection of that theme, "Tara Theme" was similarly > associated... > not with "Gone With The Wind" but with "Million Dollar Movie" on WOR-TV > Channel 9 (yes that's right, 3 call letters) as the score under the > introductory title. And, since "Million Dollar Movie" ran "King Kong" > (1933) > exclusively on Thanksgiving Day, I for years associated Tara Theme with the > big ape. It's almost OK, since Max Steiner did the score for "King Kong" > as > well as "Gone With The Wind" AND, um, "White Banners." Strange path of > association, eh? > > CC > > From: sem8@cornell.edu > > To: ckarma@hotmail.com; > passscribe@aol.com; > joni@smoe.org > > Subject: RE: Hana Film > > Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 18:45:28 +0000 > > > > One of my fondest memories is laying on the floor in my Nana's living > room > in West Orange, NJ, with coke and fruit loops, watching the 5'oclock movie > ... > the opening was the theme song to Gone From the Wind and until I saw that > movie a couple of years later I always referred to that tune as the 5 > o'clock > movie song. Our favorites were the Busby Berkeleys and my Nana had a huge > crush on Cary Grant!! :-) Every time I see one of these old movies I miss > my > Nana. > > > > Sue > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-joni@smoe.org > [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of c Karma > > Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 1:23 PM > > To: passscribe@aol.com; > joni@smoe.org > > Subject: RE: Hana Film > > > > Through various discussions over the past few years, the list has > surmised > that the film that inspired the song "Hana," even though Joni spells the > name > differently is this one, "White Banners" from 1938. I believe that she may > have made reference to an unnamed movie having provided the groundwork for > the > song in some interviews she gave around the time that "Shine" was released. > > It seems to fit, especially with the back story about a child given up > for > adoption. I can imagine Joni having a special attachment for this film > given > the pain she felt having lost Kilauren all those years. I can't say that > she > has embraced all of Hanna's philosophy but there is no question that Joni > can't have created what she has without a great degree of positivity. > > I, personally speculate that this is the film that she refers to in the > line, "Last night the ghost of my old ideals re-ran on Channel 5" in Don > Juan's Reckless Daughter. Back in the '70s, New York's Channel 5 was WNEW, > an > independent station that was starved for programming (prior to becoming a > FOX > network station). It devoted a large amount of its broadcast time to movie > re-runs. It was also the station that originated the catch phrase, "It's > 10pm. > Do you know where your children are?" > > > Ouch. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa3u3TA0sdM&list=FLGPnErDC-ZdFZmiRSmwO6Yg > > &index=1&feature=plpp_video > > > > CC > > > > To: ckarma@hotmail.com > > Subject: Hana Film > > From: passscribe@aol.com > > Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 12:24:56 -0500 > > > > Just wondering why you chose to recommend this film on the JMDL. Any > connection to Joni or her family? > > > > > > > > > > Ken ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2012 #60 **************************** ------- To post messages to the list, send tojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------