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JMDL Digest        Thursday, January 19 2012        Volume 2011 : Number 917



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  Re: Joni Progression                                 [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com]
  Re: Joni Progression                                 [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com]
  Re: Joni Progression                                 [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com]
  Re: Joni Progression           [gerard mclaughlin <daligay@googlemail.com>]
  Fwd: Joni Progression          [gerard mclaughlin <daligay@googlemail.com>]
  Re: Hejira & Blue - now your Joni progression?  [Dave Blackburn <beatntrac]

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Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 09:13:00 -0500
From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com
Subject: Re: Joni Progression

Hey Doug - outstanding to hear from you my friend!

Thanks for your history - nice to hear "I Think I Understand" get some 
well-deserved props. A vastly under-rated tune imo.

Bob

NP: John Mellencamp, "Heaven Is A Lonely Place"
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Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 09:02:57 -0500
From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com
Subject: Re: Joni Progression

Firstly, big thanks to Lori for starting this thread - really great 
reading the past couple of days and so many good stories. Funny how the 
journeys can be so different and how opinions about songs and albums can 
vary so wildly. A tribute to Joni's diversity I would say.

Jack, I have about 10 responses to your post so I'll just have to table 
them until we meet again. But I MUST respond to:

<When ever I'm showing off my home stereo, I always 
play this - at least the Overture.  Jaco's bass just kills me on this 
cut.>

My next-door neighbor is in his 30's and loves vinyl and high-end stereo. 
I've given him Hejira and DJRD on vinyl, but we hadn't spun either one 
much until last week. He had just picked up some monster Infinity speakers 
on Craigslist, cleaned and repaired them and was ready to show them off. I 
pulled DJRD and played side 1, because that Overture/Cotton Avenue is so 
amazing in BIG sound. He loved it and Talk To Me and Jericho as well. We 
didn't get into lyrics much, we were just enjoying the sonics of the 
record, so I can definitely relate to what you're talking about.

Bob

NP: Steel Pulse, "Roller Skates"
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Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 08:52:55 -0500
From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com
Subject: Re: Joni Progression

<You wanna make Van Goghs
Dress 'em up like sheep
make 'em out of Eskimos
or women if you please....

The rest I get but what does all that mean? Anybody know?>

Hi Gerard - she wrote it after she was invited to speak to a arts 
conference/class/workshop in Canada where the thrust of the gig was to 
create artists, and the invite said that they were trying to make new Van 
Gogh's. Obviously this didn't sit well with Joni, but it did coax a good 
song out of her.

Bob

NP: Ben Folds Five, "One Angry Dwarf and 200 Solemn Faces"
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Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 15:07:16 +0000
From: gerard mclaughlin <daligay@googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: Joni Progression

 That's that sorted then. Next time I sing it I'll know what she was
talking about and yes it is a great song which happily makes sense to me
now. Thanks for that, Bob.Gosh they're all so personal. You got a copy of
her diary or something? how the heck do you get info like that ?

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:52 PM, <Bob.Muller@fluor.com> wrote:

> <You wanna make Van Goghs
> Dress 'em up like sheep
> make 'em out of Eskimos
> or women if you please....
>
> The rest I get but what does all that mean? Anybody know?>
>
> Hi Gerard - she wrote it after she was invited to speak to a arts
> conference/class/workshop in Canada where the thrust of the gig was to
> create artists, and the invite said that they were trying to make new Van
> Gogh's. Obviously this didn't sit well with Joni, but it did coax a good
> song out of her.
>
> Bob
>
> NP: Ben Folds Five, "One Angry Dwarf and 200 Solemn Faces"
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Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:37:22 +0000
From: gerard mclaughlin <daligay@googlemail.com>
Subject: Fwd: Joni Progression

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From: gerard mclaughlin <daligay@googlemail.com>
Date: Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: Joni Progression
To: Doug <dmeek@webruler.com>


Lovely that you got stirred out of lurkdom, Doug. It is great reading
everyone's Joni progressions. I have to say though that you are missing out
on some truly magnificent sounds not listening to Hejira. Try Song for
Sharon for starters and that might ease the journey there. Refuge of the
Roads too. Strange Boy took me a long time .and I go along with you that it
is a difficult one to get into.It was a very fruitful experience for me .I
think though that she shows true humility in that she has no delusions
about herself. she confesses to being egoic which in itself is evidence of
humility :Know thyself ! Her honesty though is probably quite shocking. A
wonderfully bare winter offering. The perfect album in my book but scary
coming from the sweet young songstress of before.


On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:35 AM, Doug <dmeek@webruler.com> wrote:

> I'm enjoying reading about everyone else's experiences. Enough to stir me
> out of
> several years of lurkdom.
> Here's mine:
>
> My first album was STAS, which actually belonged to my older sister, but I
> "adopted" it along
> with Judy Collins' Wildflowers. It has remained my favorite album of all
> time, by anyone.
>
> I bought Clouds when it was released. I remember my favorite song was I
> Think I Understand .
> I was always impressed that Joni did everything herself including
> background vocals, and cover art.
>
> Next I got Blue. Loved it to death. Every song.
> For The Roses, ditto
>
> Somewhere around this time I realized there was an album I missed. I got a
> copy of LOTC eventually,
> but I always felt it was an odd jumble of songs. I liked some of the songs
> , but couldn't get into
> it much as a album. For a long time I thought it had been released after
> Blue.
>
> With Court And Spark Joni was all over the radio, I remember listening to
> a 2 hour interview
> with her on a CBC radio show called "The Entertainers". The L.A Express
> seemed to fit well with her.
>
> MOA was a surprise. I saw it in a record store, bought it immediately of
> course. Loved it
> HOSL - Joni was musically better than ever and I played it a lot, but I
> couldn't identify
> with the subject matter of her songs much on this album. It was the last
> one I bought.
>
> I heard Coyote on the radio or somewhere. Hated it. Still do. Did not want
> to get Hejira.
>
> Almost bought Night Ride Home in 1994 but was turned off by some preachy
> lyrics.
>
> Many years later I picked up all of Joni's albums from Hejira on. I
> listened to them all and the
> only one that impressed me was DJRD, though the fact is I've never played
> it since.
> There are a few songs from those years like Chinese Cafe and others I like.
>
> All in all I prefer Joni solo, especially the early years when she was, or
> at least appeared to be
> happy and humble.
>
> Doug

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Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 08:07:55 -0800
From: Dave Blackburn <beatntrack@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Hejira & Blue - now your Joni progression?

All these posts about albums that grew on us over time endorse the importance of the ALBUM as a format. Although individual tracks might grow on you over time they are like atomized sentences (the Twitter phenomenon) instead of as a coherent set of paragraphs making a cogent argument. The demise of the album format is very unfortunate for both the serious artist and the fans alike.

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