From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2011 #719 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jmdl.com JMDL Digest Sunday, December 11 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 719 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: NJC Anita talks Olympic women on BBC NJC [Victor Subject: Re: NJC Anita talks Olympic women on BBC NJC My friend John was on the Boston Red Sox segment. Victor in Atlanta Sent from my iPhone On Dec 9, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Anita G wrote: > Dear Joni Friends > As some of you know, Steph and I have had a long association with all > things Olympic, following from research we undertook in the 1990s about the > oldest women Olympians. Last week, I had the delight of being asked to do > the voice over for a small 8 minute radio production that uses our 1998 > taped interviews of 3 British women Olympic swimmers who competed in the > Amsterdam Olympics of 1928, It's due to be broadcast on the BBC World > Service at 23.50 GMT tonight  then every 7 hours or so around the globe. > It's part of a series called 'Sporting Witness' which has short pieces > about various sporting events. I have listened to some about Boston Red > Sox, ice hockey, Munich Olympics in 1972 and all sorts of bits and pieces. > Anyway, it's lovely that these interviews are being used, thought, of > course, they have been vastly edited. > > Catherine has told me that she has been able to download the programmes > from the web site from Canada, so you might be able to hear it some time > tomorrow from this link: > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00j2pn5 > > I haven't heard it myself yet, so I am quite excited. > Love to all > Anita ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 16:13:18 -0600 From: est86mlm@ameritech.net Subject: Simple Sorrow and For The Roses Paul, Sheila Weller, in her book GIRLS LIKE US claims the song is about James Taylor. Page 334 - Joni Mitchell - For The Roses "Joni bought acerage in British Columbia, north of Vancouver, and helped build a stone house in the woods, overlooking Half Moon Bay. It was here that she would write the songs for her next album, /For The Roses/. Five of the songs were about James Taylor. /For The Roses/, takes musing account of his celebrity: she remembers how it was at the beginning; he'd slump in that way he had that, Kootch had said, made /every/ woman fall in love with him." http://www.girlslikeusthemusic.com/chapter-eleven/ Here's what I'm thinking: At the time when Joni & James were together he was still a relatively new singer....just coming into fame in the US. His first album was released in London. My thoughts about the lyrics "On your mark red ribbon runner caressing rev of motors" and "now your seen on giant screens" was the time they spent together on the movie-set of the only movie James appeared in "Two Lane Blacktop" (been doing alot of research on that lately). James was heavily into drugs during that time and often irritable, from what I read, Joni felt he was quite critical of her and was very hurt. She was on the movie set for quite awhile, and camped out in the hotel where most of the actors and workers were. There was singing by the pool and in the hotel rooms (the good times). She eventually left him there and the song "This Flight Tonight" was written about her leaving the movie set and James to sort things out. Laura Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 14:32:01 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Ivice Subject: Simple sorrow In some office sits a poet And he trembles as he sings And he asks some guy To circulate his soul around On your mark red ribbon runner The caressing rev of motors Finely tuned like fancy women In thirties evening gowns Up the charts Off to the airport- Your name's in the news Everything's first class- The lights go down- And it's just you up there Getting them to feel like that Remember the days when you used to sit And make up your tunes for love And pour your simple sorrow To the soundhole and your knee And now you're seen On giant screens And at parties for the press And for people who have slices of you I believe Joni is writing in "For the Roses" about Jackson Browne, who performed in groups like the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, but lacked the confidence in his voice to be a solo performer, so others like Tom Rush recorded his songs while Jackson took singing lessons. Anyone have another opinion? Paul Ivice ;>) ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2011 #719 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list, send to joni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------