From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2011 #682 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jmdl.com JMDL Digest Saturday, December 3 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 682 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: The State of the JMDL (Google vs Yahoo) [Lieve Reckers Subject: Re: The State of the JMDL (Google vs Yahoo) Jim, many thanks for this research. I really hope we can go for one of those two options (I would personally prefer yahoo because I already have an account with them, but either would do). I can certainly say now that if we went for some sort of forum, I would end up not using it. Anything other than email format is just too much of a demand of my time and would fall by the way side, however good my intentions might be. Lieve >________________________________ > From: Jim >To: Paul Castle ; "joni@smoe.org" >Cc: "FMYFL@aol.com" ; Catherine McKay ; Moni Kellermann ; Michael Flaherty ; Jim L'Hommedieu ; "lesirvin@gmail.com" >Sent: Wednesday, 30 November 2011, 17:06 >Subject: Re: The State of the JMDL (Google vs Yahoo) > >From a lurker who has never used Google groups but am very familiar with yahoo >groups.B I just Googled the pros and cons of Yahoo Groups vs Google Groups >and will list below what I found.B It seems if we use the site strictly for >the Group's eMail features, Google might be better because the ads are less >intrusive but to make it a private Google group, everyone would have to create >a Google account.B Where as you don't have to have a Yahoo ID/Account to get >the Yahoo group's emails (though you do need a yahoo id to use the features on >the Yahoo group website).B > > >On the flip side, as for the Group's website, >Yahoo's Group offers more bells and whistles and much more storage for files >and photos and seems to be managed much easier.B But it is important to note >that yahoo does not attach message attachments to messages on the Group's site >even though attachments are delivered via the eMails whereas Google keeps the >file attachments on the messages posted on the group site. > >And lastly, for >those that detest NJC messages, you can always choose "no group eMails" and >periodically go to the the group's website to read the "only Joni" messages >whenever you please if you are not comfortable with adding a "NJC" eMail >filter to your eMail options. > > >Here are the Google vs Yahoo pros and cons >that came up on my google search > >YAHOO PROS >- generally more reliable >- can >post polls >- member can post to the group calendar >- 200 MB available for >group storage (100 MB for attachments >and photos, and another 100 MB for >files). >- Members can post links of interest on the group site >- Group Owner >can designate multiple group managers while limiting >certain powers to >managers (ie. Can allow several people to approve new group >members or delete >inappropriate posts or spam but not allow that manager to delete >members or >delete the entire group which is very important). >- can subscribe to the >group's eMail features without a yahoo ID (but not have access to the actual >Group website features) > >B >YAHOO CONS >- big flashy banner ads >- message >attachments are not stored on the group site (but are delivered via eMail b >yahoo uses Norton to scan attachments) >- ads in posts/emails/advert - there >is no escaping the adverts on yahoo >- 750kB message size limit >- >autoresponder > >GOOGLE PROS >- Easier to use >- message attachments stored on >the group's site with unlimited storage space >- 5MB message size limit >- >unobtrusive text adverts > >GOOGLE CONS >- Everybody needs a google account, or >the group must be public >- Google discontinued file storage in Jan. of 2011 >- >buggy system >- impossible to moderate posts with attachments or quoted text - >in fact the >moderation queue is the worst feature of google groups. very >little works as it >should, very little control, no ability to edit a post >before approval, not >even your own. >- threads close automatically after 60 >days >- autoresponder >- servers can be unresponsive and timeout >- some >features don't work with opera browser (page editing, welcome message >editing) >- Group owners cannot designate certain powers to managers - it's all or >nothing >- message grouping doesn't always work as it should. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2011 #682 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list, send to joni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------