From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2011 #662 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jmdl.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, November 30 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 662 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: The State of the JMDL (Google vs Yahoo) [Jim ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 14:06:38 -0800 (PST) From: Jim Subject: Re: The State of the JMDL (Google vs Yahoo) From a lurker who has never used Google groups but am very familiar with yahoo groups.B I just Googled the pros and cons of Yahoo Groups vs Google Groups and will list below what I found.B It seems if we use the site strictly for the Group's eMail features, Google might be better because the ads are less intrusive but to make it a private Google group, everyone would have to create a Google account.B Where as you don't have to have a Yahoo ID/Account to get the Yahoo group's emails (though you do need a yahoo id to use the features on the Yahoo group website).B On the flip side, as for the Group's website, Yahoo's Group offers more bells and whistles and much more storage for files and photos and seems to be managed much easier.B But it is important to note that yahoo does not attach message attachments to messages on the Group's site even though attachments are delivered via the eMails whereas Google keeps the file attachments on the messages posted on the group site. And lastly, for those that detest NJC messages, you can always choose "no group eMails" and periodically go to the the group's website to read the "only Joni" messages whenever you please if you are not comfortable with adding a "NJC" eMail filter to your eMail options. Here are the Google vs Yahoo pros and cons that came up on my google search YAHOO PROS - - generally more reliable - - can post polls - - member can post to the group calendar - - 200 MB available for group storage (100 MB for attachments and photos, and another 100 MB for files). - - Members can post links of interest on the group site - - Group Owner can designate multiple group managers while limiting certain powers to managers (ie. Can allow several people to approve new group members or delete inappropriate posts or spam but not allow that manager to delete members or delete the entire group which is very important). - - can subscribe to the group's eMail features without a yahoo ID (but not have access to the actual Group website features) B YAHOO CONS - - big flashy banner ads - - message attachments are not stored on the group site (but are delivered via eMail b yahoo uses Norton to scan attachments) - - ads in posts/emails/advert - there is no escaping the adverts on yahoo - - 750kB message size limit - - autoresponder GOOGLE PROS - - Easier to use - - message attachments stored on the group's site with unlimited storage space - - 5MB message size limit - - unobtrusive text adverts GOOGLE CONS - - Everybody needs a google account, or the group must be public - - Google discontinued file storage in Jan. of 2011 - - buggy system - - impossible to moderate posts with attachments or quoted text - in fact the moderation queue is the worst feature of google groups. very little works as it should, very little control, no ability to edit a post before approval, not even your own. - - threads close automatically after 60 days - - autoresponder - - servers can be unresponsive and timeout - - some features don't work with opera browser (page editing, welcome message editing) - - Group owners cannot designate certain powers to managers - it's all or nothing - - message grouping doesn't always work as it should. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2011 #662 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list, send to joni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------