From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2011 #626 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jmdl.com JMDL Digest Saturday, November 26 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 626 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: hello my old friend - (njc) [Michael Paz ] Re: T-giving foods and njc [Catherine McKay ] Suzanne Sings Joni Mitchell and Leonard Cohen [Rozanne Gates ] Subject: hello my old friend - njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Apple Sauce Recipe - Pork Chops with Caramelized Apples [Sharon Watkins <] Re: The State of the JMDL [Michael Flaherty ] Re: hello my old friend - (njc) [Catherine McKay ] RE: hello my old friend - (njc) [Susan Tierney McNamara ] Re: hello my old friend - (njc) [Lori Fye ] Re: JMDL Digest V2011 #534 [Lori Fye ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 09:46:22 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: hello my old friend - (njc) HI Patrick This is one of those stories that would have given Jack goose bumps and sent him into a fit of rubbing his forearms going "look look!!!" I recall hearing from Tom as I am the one that gets the emails from the website. Many of you do not know this but Jack was in the coffee biz for many years and even owned a coffee shop in Santa Fe where he also had live music. Jack was not the greates businessman and eventually ost his business and also his marriage broke up. He loved Santa Fe as much as he loved Louisiana. In the song Here I Go Again (Stuck in the middlle) he is conflicted on where he wanted to live. Hence the picture of him on the cover of his album, in a pirouge on the bayou by my house where we cut the record and the mesa of New Mexico in the back ground. He does have a beautiful daughter Sarah who is challanged with CP, but it is the most amazing person and a very talented writer. Sarah has written a libretto called Never Having Seen a Bird for which I have taken on the repsonsibility of producing a rock opera. It seems I am destined to work with Neilson's all my life. I have hired my number one son Mikey's best friend Alex Price to compose the music for the piece. WE have 21 songs of which we have written and produced demos for 8 pieces. Sarah has entered the piece in a contest to try and get some funding to produce this for the stage. Hopefully we will finish writing the music and get a CD of it produced within the next 6 months. Thanks for recalling my old friend Jack. The amazing thing is the most of his friends feel like they were the ones he was writing about in that song. A true talent of a songwriter. One reviewer called his lyrics "pedestrian" and he hated that. He took it as a negative, but I saw the positive side of that, truly believing that most anyone could enjoy his songs without having to be some kind of brain. (no bad intentions meant towards brains you understand) Love to all Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Nov 25, 2011, at 11:16 PM, patrick leader wrote: i had my friends tom and laura over to my place tonight, and the following amazing thing happened. i've known tom for 25 years. he's been dating a woman named penny for about two years; she lives in santa fe and we live in new york; i asked him how they met and he told me this: tom had a serious health scare about four years ago (nearly died), and he told me that, as one does, he reflected a lot about his life and people he had cared about. so he made efforts to reconnect with two friends he'd loved very much in college, in santa fe, in the early '70s. one of them was penny and the other was a guy named jack. jack had been a roommate of tom's in the dorms, and then a housemate when they moved off-campus. jack was a guitarist, a really talented guitarist, with a huge laugh. he was some kind of business major. they had many many great memories together in college. tom lost track of him years ago. so he googled jack and he was thrilled that jack had stayed in music, he had even opened for arlo guthrie. tom wrote to the website he found, an excited email saying how glad he was that he'd found jack, that jack had stayed in music, it'd be so great to speak or get together, etc. a note came back from the website. the responder said, 'i didn't want to reply, but you clearly feel so deeply about jack, i had to tell you that jack died two years ago'. at that point in tom's story, i asked my friend what this jack person's last name was, his college roommate, and he said nielson, and i told him, i knew jack nielson. jaws dropped in my apartment! tom knows about my joni obsession and i think he's aware that i've been going to these jonifests, so i explained that jack had been my roommate one year (2002, i think), and that i had had the pleasure of watching him perform many times, rocking back and forth while playing the guitar, just as tom had remembered from 1974 or so. i told him how jack had been loved by the jonilisters that met him, and how jack's dear friend michael paz had encouraged him and helped console his daughter sarah, when jack died. michael paz is the person who wrote back to tom. then i said, 'i'm sure i have some of jack's music around here'. it took a while, but i found a song on a sampler that chris marshall gave me at the first holycombe fest - thanks chris!! so we listened to the song and had a good cry. first, what are the chances?! that my new york friend's college roommate would turn out to be someone i knew from such a random circumstance? second, what were the chances that i would be able to dig through my music and play tom a song written and performed by his old friend? and that the song would be called 'hello my old friend'? patrick np - silence ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 06:03:35 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: T-giving foods and njc MMMmmm, perogies. I had a lot of Ukrainian kids in my class in high school and they used to do this thing in Toronto every summer (maybe they still do) called Caravan, where the various ethnic groups would host something in a church or community centre, with entertainment AND FOOD from their mother land. I always looked forward to anything Ukrainian because of the dancing and the perogies. That canned cranberry was a staple in my parents' home for many years. I expect cranberry jelly to have those can-ridges. It was only when my mother made her own cranberry dressing that I realized they were actual berries. One thing I do is to make my own cranberry sauce. It's easy and my son would probably eat the whole thing by himself. Even though he won't eat turkey anymore, he will still nosh on the stuffing and cranberries. As far as gaining and losing the same 50 pounds - my friend, I think you may be a bear! I also eat when I'm grieving or depressed. I wish I could be one of those people that just stops eating, but I can't. If there's any kind of junk food in the house, it doesn't last long. It's true that you can't eat just one! >________________________________ > From: Robert Procyk >To: joni@smoe.org >Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 2:11:50 AM >Subject: T-giving foods and njc > >Well, in the parts of Canada that I've lived in these past 41 years (OMG, how can I be 41? I still watch Scooby Doo and eat candy and I did get asked for ID at a Walmart in Montana this summer), turkey has ALWAYS been the holiday meal of choice. Every Christmas, Easter, Thanksgiving, and other special occasion, a full turkey dinner with all the bells and whistles is expected. My in-laws go the extra mile and also cook a ham on these occasions. I hated, hated, HATED ham until about 5 years ago. Now? Whenever Costco comes out with those spiral hams for the various holidays? I fill my freezer with them and make perogies and ham as a treat. However, unlike Catherine, I love cooking turkeys and the whole thing. The more elaborate, the better. And since i am Ukrainian, this usually means, in addition to turkey and stuffing and all the trimmings, cabbage rolls and perogies. And I am not a foodie or a foodie snob, so I actually PREFER my cranberries in jelly form, with th! >e can ridges. >As for Bob's itty-bitty weight gain: I seem to lose and gain the SAME FREAKING 50 LBS every damn year. This means that I will spend about 6 months eating compulsively healthy, exercising, wearing my skinny clothes, etc. Then something happens, I eat and drink myself into a stupor, and then I start over again. I was good for quite a while this year, and I was slowly gaining some weight back, but then i got the stomach flu and lost like 12 lbs. THEN, 3 weeks ago, my father passed away and while for most people, grief makes eating hard to do, I have been the complete opposite, and I am afraid to step on the scale. However, tomorrow is a new day. As long as i stay away from pork and poultry, it's all good. >Happy Thanksgiving, Americans! > >Rob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 18:30:01 -0500 (EST) From: Rozanne Gates Subject: Suzanne Sings Joni Mitchell and Leonard Cohen Having trouble viewing this email? 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Be sure to hear Suzanne sing Joni's songs on Youtube [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type video/x-fl which had a name of Sheridan_poster_Australia.jpg] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 04:34:50 +0000 From: "Betsy Blue" Subject: Morbid Little Christmas Songs I'm making a Christmas playlist. What's missing? River Chinese Cafe Facelift Chelsea Morning Barangrill Don't Interrupt the Sorrow Gift of the Magi I appreciate the help! Betsy NP 2000 Miles, The Pretenders (one of my favorites) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 16:13:49 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Subject: hello my old friend - njc Great story, Patrick! Thanks for posting. There's plenty more of Jack's music for sale at www.cdbaby.com. They have "PazFest" and "Here I Go Again". Jim L'Hommedieu >> i had my friends tom and laura over to my place tonight, and the following amazing thing happened. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 18:57:53 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: hello my old friend - (njc) Incredible stories all the way around. Patrick, thanks for sharing the experience. I've had a couple things like that happen and it's always mind-blowing. Mikey, what can I say? How do you get it all done? Your opera sounds like a very cool project, I hope it all comes to fruition for all involved, especially Sara. Kind of an emotional morning...my last weekend here in Beijing, had a farewell dinner last night with my crew from work, and when they look me in the eyes and tell me that they wish I didn't have to go it gets to me. Followed that with a great night at the Traders Hotel bar with our Filipino band friends. As it was my last Saturday night, Mary Ann kept inviting me up to sing, I must have done about 20 songs and had a blast. I requested "Don't You Forget About Me" and "Leaving On A Jet Plane" but they didn't know them. Shucks. Bob NP: Mumford & Sons, "Sigh No More" ________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 19:09:55 -0600 From: Sharon Watkins Subject: Apple Sauce Recipe - Pork Chops with Caramelized Apples I was intrigued with your search for Joni's "caramelized apple oink", so I did a search for caramelized apple pork chops. Lots of hits but this one looked especially good! Sharon http://www.nyapplecountry.com/porkchopscaramapples.htm Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 13:14:22 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: The State of the JMDL Hi, Les (and all), >The current list census is as follows: 110 members of "Live" Joni 652 members of Joni-digest 44 members of Only-Joni 218 members of Only-Joni digest Another way of looking at these numbers is that a whopping 870 members are currently affected by the problems, which are with the current digest. (I assume those who are saying "don't fix it if it's not broken" are, like me, single post people.) I'm in the smallest group (Only Joni "Live"). As I'm not affected, I'm not personally going to ask for something to be done, but with that number in mind, it would be hard to argue against the change. I wouldn't want to see a mass bolt from readers. Michael F. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 05:48:35 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: hello my old friend - (njc) Wow, Patrick. That's amazing and makes me think that sometimes things are just meant to happen. I'm so glad you were able to do this for Tom - and Jack, for that matter. >________________________________ > From: patrick leader >To: Joni List >Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 12:16:08 AM >Subject: hello my old friend - (njc) > >i had my friends tom and laura over to my place tonight, and the following >amazing thing happened. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 15:56:20 +0000 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: hello my old friend - (njc) Patrick - that is one of the most amazing stories I've heard in a long time ... it doubles my conviction that there are no coincidences!! What a gift. Love, Sue Susan McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu ________________________________________ From: owner-joni@smoe.org [owner-joni@smoe.org] on behalf of patrick leader [pleader@nyc.rr.com] Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 12:16 AM To: Joni List Subject: hello my old friend - (njc) i had my friends tom and laura over to my place tonight, and the following amazing thing happened. i've known tom for 25 years. he's been dating a woman named penny for about two years; she lives in santa fe and we live in new york; i asked him how they met and he told me this: tom had a serious health scare about four years ago (nearly died), and he told me that, as one does, he reflected a lot about his life and people he had cared about. so he made efforts to reconnect with two friends he'd loved very much in college, in santa fe, in the early '70s. one of them was penny and the other was a guy named jack. jack had been a roommate of tom's in the dorms, and then a housemate when they moved off-campus. jack was a guitarist, a really talented guitarist, with a huge laugh. he was some kind of business major. they had many many great memories together in college. tom lost track of him years ago. so he googled jack and he was thrilled that jack had stayed in music, he had even opened for arlo guthrie. tom wrote to the website he found, an excited email saying how glad he was that he'd found jack, that jack had stayed in music, it'd be so great to speak or get together, etc. a note came back from the website. the responder said, 'i didn't want to reply, but you clearly feel so deeply about jack, i had to tell you that jack died two years ago'. at that point in tom's story, i asked my friend what this jack person's last name was, his college roommate, and he said nielson, and i told him, i knew jack nielson. jaws dropped in my apartment! tom knows about my joni obsession and i think he's aware that i've been going to these jonifests, so i explained that jack had been my roommate one year (2002, i think), and that i had had the pleasure of watching him perform many times, rocking back and forth while playing the guitar, just as tom had remembered from 1974 or so. i told him how jack had been loved by the jonilisters that met him, and how jack's dear friend michael paz had encouraged him and helped console his daughter sarah, when jack died. michael paz is the person who wrote back to tom. then i said, 'i'm sure i have some of jack's music around here'. it took a while, but i found a song on a sampler that chris marshall gave me at the first holycombe fest - thanks chris!! so we listened to the song and had a good cry. first, what are the chances?! that my new york friend's college roommate would turn out to be someone i knew from such a random circumstance? second, what were the chances that i would be able to dig through my music and play tom a song written and performed by his old friend? and that the song would be called 'hello my old friend'? patrick np - silence ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 18:47:13 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Suzanne Sheridan Sings Joni Mitchell and Leonard Cohen NJC Rozanne - thanks for the link. Can't check it out here but I for sure will (along with the Mutts videos) when I get back home on WEDNESDAY. Bob NP: Eels, "From Which I Came/A Magic World" ________________________________ From: Rozanne Gates To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 7:26 AM Subject: Suzanne Sheridan Sings Joni Mitchell and Leonard Cohen http://www.facebook.com/suzannesheridan.jonimitchell.leonardcohen The two greatest Canadian songwriters of the 20th century are paired in this tribute concert. Be sure to hear Suzanne sing Joni's songs on Youtube [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type video/x-fl which had a name of Sheridan_poster_Australia.jpg] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 08:50:46 -0500 (EST) From: Ken Subject: State of the JMDL by Les Regarding our beloved JMDL: For what it's worth, I'm one of those 652 members of Joni Digest and, admittedly, I'm not a regular poster. I also get overwhelmed at times when I open up a mailing and find twenty or more posts 'cause I know it will take me a very long time to read them all (so I often skim the subjects and read only what I think I'll be interested in); but that's just me. On the other hand, I enjoy many of the messages with NJC because they're often music-related and pertaining to some other subject I enjoy learning about (the exception being long political rants or other social causes that don't interest me). In any case, I thank Les for his dedication and tireless efforts to keep the JMDL going in the bast way possible (although I don't have a clue about the way these things work). Kenny B Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 13:28:55 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: The State of the JMDL Joniphiles - Welcome to the ever-so-occasional State of the JMDL Meeting. Please silence your cell phones. As the digest people know, we have been having ongoing problems with the list via our long-time provider Smoe. Smoe is free, but it also has an absentee landlord and therefore is "as is". The problems will most likely never be resolved. The list uses the "Majordomo" software system, written 17+ years ago (ancient in computer terms...) and pretty much abandoned by its creators in favor of other systems like YahooGroups. Do we need to switch to another provider? Here are 3 options as I see them: 1) Have a volunteer step forward who is willing/able to install the Majordomo software on their own server and host the list for free. 2) Switch to YahooGroups for free. Free, BUT there will NO LONGER BE A "JONI-ONLY" option as Yahoo offers no way to do this (unless someone has information I don't). 3) Find another Majordomo system to host. My research indicates a $40+/- monthly fee for this. Yikes. The current list census is as follows: 110 members of "Live" Joni 652 members of Joni-digest 44 members of Only-Joni 218 members of Only-Joni digest So, 25% of the current members - the "only" people - will be inconvenienced by switching to YahooGroups. On the other hand, most email systems (Outlook, Windows Mail, Gmail, Hotmail, etc, etc...) offer a filtering option in which one can send single NJC messages directly to the trash. Still, the Only-Joni Digest people (21% of our population) are left without a real solution. There is no easy answer to the current problem if you are among the 21%. I'll appreciate your thoughtful discussion/ideas (public and/or private) in the next week or so and will make a decision at that point. Thanks, Les - ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 11:41:14 -0600 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: hello my old friend - (njc) Wonderful story, Patrick. Thank you for sharing it with us. Truly, there are no coincidences. Lori in Tioga ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 10:30:15 -0600 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2011 #534 > Sounds good to me. BTW, I have never posted here before. Well then, WELCOME ANNA! Post more! Lori Tioga, ND ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2011 #626 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list, send to joni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------