From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2011 #587 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jmdl.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, November 23 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 587 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- The State of the JMDL [Les Irvin ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 13:28:55 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: The State of the JMDL Joniphiles - Welcome to the ever-so-occasional State of the JMDL Meeting. Please silence your cell phones. As the digest people know, we have been having ongoing problems with the list via our long-time provider Smoe. Smoe is free, but it also has an absentee landlord and therefore is "as is". The problems will most likely never be resolved. The list uses the "Majordomo" software system, written 17+ years ago (ancient in computer terms...) and pretty much abandoned by its creators in favor of other systems like YahooGroups. Do we need to switch to another provider? Here are 3 options as I see them: 1) Have a volunteer step forward who is willing/able to install the Majordomo software on their own server and host the list for free. 2) Switch to YahooGroups for free. Free, BUT there will NO LONGER BE A "JONI-ONLY" option as Yahoo offers no way to do this (unless someone has information I don't). 3) Find another Majordomo system to host. My research indicates a $40+/- monthly fee for this. Yikes. The current list census is as follows: 110 members of "Live" Joni 652 members of Joni-digest 44 members of Only-Joni 218 members of Only-Joni digest So, 25% of the current members - the "only" people - will be inconvenienced by switching to YahooGroups. On the other hand, most email systems (Outlook, Windows Mail, Gmail, Hotmail, etc, etc...) offer a filtering option in which one can send single NJC messages directly to the trash. Still, the Only-Joni Digest people (21% of our population) are left without a real solution. There is no easy answer to the current problem if you are among the 21%. I'll appreciate your thoughtful discussion/ideas (public and/or private) in the next week or so and will make a decision at that point. Thanks, Les ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2011 #587 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list, send to joni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------