From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2011 #541 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jmdl.com JMDL Digest Sunday, November 20 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 541 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: kate bush njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: kate bush njc ["Mark" ] Joni For Sale [CoyoteRick@aol.com] Re: HOSL is magical! [Dave Blackburn ] HOSL is magical! [anon anon ] Re: HOSL is magical! [Dave Blackburn ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 06:22:35 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: kate bush njc Mrs B - it's about finding love and sensuality in everyday things and the memory of the loved one. Mrs B is washing dirty clothes and kind of pissed off at Mr B for making such a mess but, as she sees the clothes intertwined in the washing machine, it reminds her of how she and Mr B are similarly intertwined. And then, I think she's turned on by these thoughts and by washing machine, which is kind of freaky, but also reminds me of a scene (or scenes) I've seen in some movie and/or TV show. I believe Kate B is really into movies, so she uses the ideas she gets from them in her writing (and in her videos as well.) And yes, I do find that one kind of hard to listen to! I kind of like "Pi" too - I love the idea that she uses numbers as her lyrics. I hope she got them in the right order ;-) I also like that she picks up on things that others might ignore: a geeky mathematician and his love of numbers. Most people wouldn't get that, much less appreciate it. This reminds me of Stryngs, the band made up of listers and/or one-time listers Martin Giles, Chris Marshall, Les Ross and Sarah Stringer. (Hello, if any of you are out there, skulking around!) Sarah puts together beautiful poetry often about people she has encountered either as personal friends or acquaintances, or professionally as a physician, and some of these people are nerdy or geeky types. In particular, the one that comes to mind is "The aeroplane collector," but she has a few more. For those that are interested, please give them a listen, and do read the lyrics. Strings'/Stryngs' lyrics are much more complex, of course, but still the idea of having some sort of understanding and appreciation, if not love, for people that would be rejected by most. Their website is: http://stryngs.bandcamp.com/ The particular song I mentioned is here, lyrics and all: http://stryngs.bandcamp.com/track/the-aeroplane-collector-2 >________________________________ > From: Mark >To: evian@sasktel.net; joni@smoe.org >Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 1:54:03 AM >Subject: Re: kate bush njc > >Hey Rob, > >That song about the washing machine is called 'Mrs. Bartolozzi' from 'Aerial' and I don't get it either. But I find the song 'Pi' to be both amusing and kind of fascinating. I think it's amazing that she was able to make something so musically interesting while reeling off a series of numbers. > >I'm no expert on Kate Bush but I do love 'The Hounds of Love' and 'Aerial' is really a great double cd. I really like the song 'How To Be Invisible'. I don't know exactly what it means but there's something I pick up from listening to it. There have been lots of songwriters who have written songs about their children but 'Bertie' has to be one of the sweetest and most beautifully done. 'Joanni' is another one I like. And the second disk has some great stuff on it. It's really a beautifully done continuous piece of music that has a series of 'movements' to it. > >Kate does write about obscure things sometimes that you kind of have to know the back story of them to really get what they're about. And some of her songs suggest things to me that come more from feelings than an understanding of what Kate had in mind when she wrote them. > >I agree with you on Tori Amos. She is just too off the wall for me. A friend gave me a tape of her stuff many years ago and 'Cornflake Girl' is one of the few songs that I liked or can even remember. > >Like Betsy wrote, Joni pretty much writes straightforward lyrics. You almost immediately get what she's singing about. Then you listen to the song again and something else in it comes to light. Then you listen again and you hear a little something more. And then you listen again and.....it's sort of like Pi...... > >3.14159265358979323864626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923078164062 8620899862803482534211706798214808651328230.................................. ................................... > >Oh he loves, he loves, he does love his Joni. And she's moving in a great big circle (game?) >(We don't hear much from Patti P. these days so somebody has to do it. Patti, where are you?) > >Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:54:03 -0800 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: kate bush njc Hey Rob, That song about the washing machine is called 'Mrs. Bartolozzi' from 'Aerial' and I don't get it either. But I find the song 'Pi' to be both amusing and kind of fascinating. I think it's amazing that she was able to make something so musically interesting while reeling off a series of numbers. I'm no expert on Kate Bush but I do love 'The Hounds of Love' and 'Aerial' is really a great double cd. I really like the song 'How To Be Invisible'. I don't know exactly what it means but there's something I pick up from listening to it. There have been lots of songwriters who have written songs about their children but 'Bertie' has to be one of the sweetest and most beautifully done. 'Joanni' is another one I like. And the second disk has some great stuff on it. It's really a beautifully done continuous piece of music that has a series of 'movements' to it. Kate does write about obscure things sometimes that you kind of have to know the back story of them to really get what they're about. And some of her songs suggest things to me that come more from feelings than an understanding of what Kate had in mind when she wrote them. I agree with you on Tori Amos. She is just too off the wall for me. A friend gave me a tape of her stuff many years ago and 'Cornflake Girl' is one of the few songs that I liked or can even remember. Like Betsy wrote, Joni pretty much writes straightforward lyrics. You almost immediately get what she's singing about. Then you listen to the song again and something else in it comes to light. Then you listen again and you hear a little something more. And then you listen again and.....it's sort of like Pi...... 3.141592653589793238646264338327950288419716939937510582097494459230781640628620899862803482534211706798214808651328230..................................................................... Oh he loves, he loves, he does love his Joni. And she's moving in a great big circle (game?) (We don't hear much from Patti P. these days so somebody has to do it. Patti, where are you?) Mark in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: evian@sasktel.net Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 8:07 AM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: kate bush njc B I haven't heard anything from the new Kate, but I can't wait.B However, my favorite Kate album seems to be the one that most of her fans didn't care for.B I didn't discover Kate until 1985, when Hounds of Love came out.B I still love that album, and then I backtracked to her older stuff.B But, my very favorite album of hers is The Red Shoes.B I love that album so much, but most people seem lukewarm to it.B Anyway, I waited very patiently until she released the last one, that two disc one (I can't think of the name right now), and I have to admit, I just didn't get it.B I thought maybe I was just getting old, and wasn't getting the quirkiness anymore.B I remember listening for the first time to that one and there was this track, I think it was call "Washing Machine" (it had something to do with a washing machine, anyway), and when she belted out this melancholy "waaaaaashhhhhing.... MA-CHEEEEEEN"B B I spit coffee everywhere and almost choked, it was that funny. And ! then I think that was followed by the song where she recited Pi, and well, that pretty much was where I stopped.B Anyway, here's hoping she paints me another Red Shoes, man.... Rob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 01:30:49 -0500 (EST) From: CoyoteRick@aol.com Subject: Joni For Sale Hello all: Just a quick note to let you know that a signed copy of Joni's "Wild Things Run Fast" will be auctioned off by Julien's Auctions of Los Angeles in early December. You do not have to be present to bid as there is an Internet option as is typical these days with higher end auctions. Bradley and I have been part of several of Julien's Auctions in the past and can personally vouch for their integrity. They value the signed LP at the $200-$400 range, but, beware -- they also valued a pair of Bette Midler's 1970s Disco Shoes at $700 and they sold for $10,000. These things get crazy. I've seldom seen things go below valued price -- if so, they are pulled. Note to all: Hang onto your signed stuff. Go to _https://www.julienslive.com/view-auctions/catalog/id/37/?page=16&__utma=1.1661341722.1321682764.1321682764.1321682764.1&__utmb=1.2.10.1321682764& __utmc=1&__utmx=-&__utmz=1.1321682764.1.1.utmcsr=(direct)|utmccn=(direct)|ut mcmd=(none)&__utmv=-&__utmk=123001483_ (https://www.julienslive.com/view-auctions/catalog/id/37/?page=16&__utma=1.1661341722.1321682764.1321682764.13216 82764.1&__utmb=1.2.10.1321682764&__utmc=1&__utmx=-&__utmz=1.1321682764.1.1.u tmcsr=(direct)|utmccn=(direct)|utmcmd=(none)&__utmv=-&__utmk=123001483) to view the item or go to _www.JuliensAuctions.com_ (http://www.JuliensAuctions.com) and look for lot # 1214 of the Icons and Idols Auction. There are lots of juicy items being auctioned. Joan Baez, Neil Young, CSN, Hendrix, Led Zep, The Who, Zappa etc. etc. etc. There is also a limited public viewing of the items -- but don't count on seeing all -- there are literally thousands of things being auctioned on December 1-4. It takes two catalogues (beautiful themselves, but pricey -- buy about three pricey auction items over time and you suddenly get them for free in the mail via UPS) just to inventory the items. The books are collectors' items. I was happy to see Joni included among the greats. There's also a pretty swanky Liberace auction going on in NY -- email me privately for details. It just doesn't get better than this. :-) No regrets. CoyoteRick ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 10:44:04 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: HOSL is magical! No need to explain or describe it here. I think we all get what you mean. I was just thinking, listening to the Tina Turner and Melody Gardot covers of Edith, how both somewhat capture the characters' ennui but neither conveys the glamour or elegance that Joni's version does. Such an incomparable artist in those days she was! On Nov 18, 2011, at 7:23 PM, anon anon wrote: > It's difficult to explain or describe,but there is something mysteriously, > ineffably magical about HOSL... I can understand Prince being obsessed by > it... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:23:38 -0500 From: anon anon Subject: HOSL is magical! It's difficult to explain or describe,but there is something mysteriously, ineffably magical about HOSL... I can understand Prince being obsessed by it... > Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:01:16 -0500 > From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org > To: joni-digest@smoe.org > Subject: JMDL Digest V2011 #539 > > > JMDL Digest Friday, November 18 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 539 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: concert memories [LC Stanley ] > Joni & Bob Steve & Bill [Happy The Man ] > Re: JMDL Digest V2011 #537 [Fred Simon ] > Re: Joni & Bob Steve & Bill [Michael Flaherty ] > Joni's quote is truly part of the common lexicon. [Dave Blackburn Susanna Hoffs talking about Joni [Chandra ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 07:01:25 -0600 > From: LC Stanley > Subject: Re: concert memories > > Wow Susan... you put me right there by your description! Thanks!! Purple and chocolate brown gowns... I want to hear more! > > Love, > Laura > > > > On Nov 17, 2011, at 7:40 AM, Susan Leviton wrote: > > > Hello, everyone. I've been an occasional reader of the posts for many > > years, and Jim just encouraged me to share some memories of Joni > > concerts. So here's a peek into my personal WayBack Machine! > > > > I tuned into that famous 1970 BBC broadcast and made it clear that I > > would lock myself into a room with the radio if my then-boyfriend > > couldn't swear he'd be totally silent for the entire time. There I > > sat in front of an old Grundig radio, holding a shoe-box sized tape > > recorder up to the speaker the whole time, about to burst because I > > had to be silent as well! I quite literally wore out the tape... > > > > When Court and Spark was released, I ran to get a copy immediately, > > and the only variety on my Motorola stereo was when I'd flip the > > record from side to side. News of her concert at the Academy of Music > > in Philadelphia, where I was working, sent me flying down to the > > theater as soon as work was over the 'first' day of ticket sales. > > Ha! Tix were gone instantly. I went home, crestfallen, trying to > > figure how much I could afford to pay a scalper. > > > > A few nights before the concert I had a dream. I dreamed an entire > > concert! I woke up filled with Joni's presence and figured that I > > was given the gift of a concert even if I couldn't get into the Academy. > > > > On the afternoon of the concert, I made my way downtown to encounter a > > small group of serious Joni Mitchell fans. We decided to break into > > pairs and try to find tickets for sale at the venue. As we got > > closer to showtime our spirits remained high. Lo and behold, the pair > > that had placed itself by the box office hit paydirt. At the last > > minute, comp tickets which were being held for the press were made > > available! The entire group of us made our way to box seats! I > > still remember Joni's two dresses that night - an earthy purple gown, > > and then a chocolate brown one. I painted her in each of them onto > > the album cover back after I finally floated home that night. I'm > > pretty sure I was not the only person in that glorious hall who felt > > she was singing right to me. I may have been the only one who > > couldn't sleep for the next two nights, though!! > > > > Thank you all for sharing the energy that inspires so many of us. > > > > Susan Leviton > > > > Susan Leviton > > 717 236-0231 > > www.susanlevitonarts.com > > > > Pennsylvania Humanities Council > > Commonwealth Speaker > > www.pahumanities.org > > > > 2012 PennPAT Roster Artist > > (Pennsylvania Performing Arts on Tour) > > www.pennpat.org > > > > "Bringing traditional Yiddish arts into the 21st Century!" > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 06:36:32 -0600 > From: Happy The Man > Subject: Joni & Bob Steve & Bill > > Reading Issacson's biography of Jobs. He was fascinated with Dylan. Though as I read along he (Jobs) reminds me of Joni. Narcissistic personality disorder is how it is presented by Steve's ex girlfriend. I have a very creative family member that everyone struggles to be around who suffers from the same thing. Steve also said Bill Gates had no original thought, that he stole from everyone else which reminds me of something that Joni has said about Bob. > > Now all that to say that I don't know Joni and only can go by what I have read. I do not know how she was in the studio though I doubt that she would call people assholes and shitheads, especially someone like Shorter. > > Also there is a chapter subheadings called Slouching towards Cupertino. > > Peace, Craig > > NP: Dan Manganese, Post-War Blues > Sent from my Kindle Fire > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:30:49 -0500 (EST) > From: Fred Simon > Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2011 #537 > > Wow ... inexplicably, this digest actually was a digest. Last night I deleted > 50 individual "digest" emails. > > I guess it's an intermittent glitch ... the worst kind. > > Fred > > > > - - Fred Simon > http://myspace.com/fredsimon > http://facebook.com/music.fred.simon > > > > > > - -----Original Message----- > From: JMDL Digest > To: joni-digest > Sent: Thu, Nov 17, 2011 12:29 pm > Subject: JMDL Digest V2011 #537 > > > > JMDL Digest Thursday, November 17 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 537 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > - -------- > Joni memorabilia for sale [Dave Gertler ] > Ain't Catherine GREAT?! [Loren Carter ] > concert memories [Susan Leviton ] > Re: concert memories [Catherine McKay ] > RE: JMDL Digest V2011 #530 ["Felty, Karen" Pandora Success [paul meyer-strom ] > > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:22:47 -0800 (PST) > From: Dave Gertler > Subject: Joni memorabilia for sale > > Hi folks, > > Please pardon a brief "commercial" message. > > I was a JMDL contributor for quite a while back around 2000. I've been away > since then, but am stopping in to post this notice. > > I'm selling my Joni memorabilia collection on eBay, in one big lot. It > includes > dozens of magazines with articles about her, dating back to the early '70s. > They > contain many hours of interesting & enjoyable reading, and tons of cool Joni > photos. My sale also includes books and a few other items. > > Part of the sale price is going to a music-related charity. > > Please see the listing here: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270855571532 > > Cheers, > Dave > > - ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:16:48 -0800 (PST) > From: Loren Carter > Subject: Ain't Catherine GREAT?! > > All, > > Remember the discussions about the "What would Joni Mitchell do?" > posters that appeared around Toronto(?) > > Well, Catherine McKay went to the > trouble to retrieve and mail one for me. It arrived recently, and to pay her > for her efforts, she said that I could donate to jonimitchell.com rather than > send her the money directly. > > > So, I made a donation to the website, and I > want everyone to know that it's really from her. It might show up with my > name, but her generosity and kindness is at the root of the story. > Catherine,with humble gratitude I bow in your presence. > > Loren > > - ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:40:09 -0500 > From: Susan Leviton > Subject: concert memories > > Hello, everyone. I've been an occasional reader of the posts for many > years, and Jim just encouraged me to share some memories of Joni > concerts. So here's a peek into my personal WayBack Machine! > > I tuned into that famous 1970 BBC broadcast and made it clear that I > would lock myself into a room with the radio if my then-boyfriend > couldn't swear he'd be totally silent for the entire time. There I > sat in front of an old Grundig radio, holding a shoe-box sized tape > recorder up to the speaker the whole time, about to burst because I > had to be silent as well! I quite literally wore out the tape... > > When Court and Spark was released, I ran to get a copy immediately, > and the only variety on my Motorola stereo was when I'd flip the > record from side to side. News of her concert at the Academy of Music > in Philadelphia, where I was working, sent me flying down to the > theater as soon as work was over the 'first' day of ticket sales. > Ha! Tix were gone instantly. I went home, crestfallen, trying to > figure how much I could afford to pay a scalper. > > A few nights before the concert I had a dream. I dreamed an entire > concert! I woke up filled with Joni's presence and figured that I > was given the gift of a concert even if I couldn't get into the Academy. > > On the afternoon of the concert, I made my way downtown to encounter a > small group of serious Joni Mitchell fans. We decided to break into > pairs and try to find tickets for sale at the venue. As we got > closer to showtime our spirits remained high. Lo and behold, the pair > that had placed itself by the box office hit paydirt. At the last > minute, comp tickets which were being held for the press were made > available! The entire group of us made our way to box seats! I > still remember Joni's two dresses that night - an earthy purple gown, > and then a chocolate brown one. I painted her in each of them onto > the album cover back after I finally floated home that night. I'm > pretty sure I was not the only person in that glorious hall who felt > she was singing right to me. I may have been the only one who > couldn't sleep for the next two nights, though!! > > Thank you all for sharing the energy that inspires so many of us. > > Susan Leviton > > Susan Leviton > 717 236-0231 > www.susanlevitonarts.com > > Pennsylvania Humanities Council > Commonwealth Speaker > www.pahumanities.org > > 2012 PennPAT Roster Artist > (Pennsylvania Performing Arts on Tour) > www.pennpat.org > > "Bringing traditional Yiddish arts into the 21st Century!" > > - ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:17:08 -0800 (PST) > From: Catherine McKay > Subject: Re: concert memories > > That is a lovely story! And, may I add, it's always so nice to hear from > someone new, or at least new to posting to the list. Sometimes I feel like > it's us same old people posting and it's always a treat to hear a new voice. > >________________________________ > >From: Susan Leviton > >To: > joni@smoe.org > >Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 8:40:09 AM > >Subject: concert > memories > > > >Hello, everyone. I've been an occasional reader of the posts for > many > >years, and Jim just encouraged me to share some memories of Joni > >concerts. So here's a peek into my personal WayBack Machine! > >[...] > > - ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:47:30 -0600 > From: "Felty, Karen" > Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2011 #530 > > In response to Jim's email regarding burning Joni CDs, I highly recommend > this. > Jim burned all 3 for me and I've loved not only the music but the commentary > prior to each song . Well worth it IMHO. I've primarily been a lurker here > on > the list, but have been a longtime admirer of Joni. I enjoy reading the posts > every day from all of you lovely people. > > Karen F. Felty > Karen.Felty@huschblackwell.com > > > > - - -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni-digest@smoe.org] > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 8:23 PM > To: joni-digest@smoe.org > Subject: JMDL Digest V2011 #530 > > > JMDL Digest Wednesday, November 16 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 530 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > - - -------- > Some of Joni's solo acoustic shows ["Jim L'Hommedieu" > - - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:36:42 -0500 > From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" > Subject: Some of Joni's solo acoustic shows > > Attention first time collectors and veterans... > > Several people are burning a solo acoustic show from March 02, 1972 in > Philadelphia, PA. This was after "Blue" but before "For The Roses" was > released. It's Joni in a solo-acoustic setting playing piano, guitar and > dulcimer. > > It's on 2 CDs and includes Jackson Browne's solo-acoustic opening set. > We're willing to burn this 2 CD-R set for anyone in the Netherlands, UK, > Canada, > or USA who mails in the blanks. > > No money will change hands. Sorry, but I've promised not to rip this show to > mp3s. For details, write to me off list. > > Thanks goes out to simon for this fine show. There are some good stories like > the one about Carey. > - - - ---------------------- > I'm also burning another show... Joni with James Taylor playing the BBC on Oct > 29, 1970. This show is on one CD and includes my favorite performances (ever) > of "California" and "Steamroller Blues". Send 3 blanks to get both shows. > Thanks to simon for this show too. > > Jim L'Hommedieu > > - - ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2011 #530 > ***************************** > > - - ------- > To post messages to the list, send to joni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > - - ------- > > ****** Begin Notice from Husch Blackwell LLP ****** > > Pursuant to U. S. Treasury regulations, we inform you that > any federal tax advice contained in this message (including > all constituent email correspondence, attachments, enclosures > and/or exhibits) is not intended or written to be used, and > cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding penalties > under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing > or recommending to another party any transaction or matter > addressed herein. > > ****** End Notice from Husch Blackwell LLP ******* > > - ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:39:24 -0800 > From: paul meyer-strom > Subject: Pandora Success > > I had long been frustrated that my Pandora station rooted in "Talk To Me" > gave > me nothing but folk songs. Hootenannies with Pete Seeger, Fairport > Convention, etc. (Not that I don't like those things, but on a DJRD-based > station?) > > I emailed Pandora, assuming that I would get a robo-response. Instead, I got > a response from Martha at Pandora, who said, when she looked into it, that > someone had miscategorized DJRD as folk, and she was sending it back to be > reanalyzed. > > Today, there was jazz on the station! "One small victory..." > > Paul > > - ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2011 #537 > ***************************** > > - ------- > To post messages to the list, send to joni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > - ------- > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:20:02 -0800 (PST) > From: Michael Flaherty > Subject: Re: Joni & Bob Steve & Bill > > >Now all that to say that I don't know Joni and only can go by what I have > read. I do not know how she was in the studio though I doubt that she would > call people assholes and shitheads, especially someone like Shorter. > > Not if > she wanted them to keep playing, she wouldn't! Job's employees had less > options, I suspect. But no, I don't think Joni would talk to someone that > way. She was less harsh with hecklers than Jobs was with friends. > > Btw, when > Jobs accused Gates of stealing his computer, Gates replied that he had broken > into Xerox to steal theirs, but Jobs had beaten him him to it. :) > > Michael > F. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:50:55 -0800 > From: Dave Blackburn > Subject: Joni's quote is truly part of the common lexicon. > > From "Alan Grayson for Congress"... > > > They paved paradise, and put up a parking lot. > > Well, thats almost right. They dont want to pave paradise. They want to > mine it. > > Here are two phrases that you probably never expected to see in the same > sentence: the Grand Canyon and uranium mines. > > Two years ago, the Obama Administration realized that new uranium mining in > Arizona could destroy the Grand Canyon, and the Colorado River flowing through > it. So it issued a proposed rule to prevent that. The rule would prevent > uranium mining in an area equivalent to forty miles long and forty miles wide, > which is smaller than the Grand Canyon itself. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:00:57 -0800 (GMT-08:00) > From: Chandra > Subject: Susanna Hoffs talking about Joni > > From the latest Rolling Stone. > > > Are there older songs that have changed for you as youbve gotten older, had a family? > > Yeah, songs kind of grow and change with us and do, in fact, take on new meaning as we grow up. I always think about when I was a little girl listening to Joni Mitchell songs and having no idea about the complexity of relationships, the love relationships, that she was talking about. And then rediscovering those records again as an adult woman, I was like, "Oh my God, I totally get what shebs saying here, this is so incredible." But I still loved it as a little girl. And the same is kind of true for some of the songs that we wrote in our twenties. I can still remember writing "In Your Room" b itbs still one of my absolute favorite songs to play live, along with songs like "Hero Takes a Fall," that I also wrote in the Eighties. Theybve grown and changed with me and the same emotion, I think, is the thing that rings true. The kind of really intense emotions, which have always compelled me to want to write or say something in a song and get that feeling kind of transformed ! > into a song, those things never really change. > > What have been some of the Joni songs that as youbve gotten older you understood and appreciated? > > "Peoplebs Parties," from Court and Spark. Having lived in Hollywood and being married to someone in the movie business and having been to a lot of parties as an adult, I definitely can listen to a song like that. The images that she wove in the lyrics are just outstanding and perfect. On Blue, there were tons. "California" is a great one. "A Case of You" is just brilliant. "All I Want" b Ibve always loved that one. > > Have you ever met Joni? > Yes, I met her when I was working on a solo record with David Baerwald, whobs a good friend of hers. Actually, Larry Klein, her ex-husband, was one of the bass players on the record. So I got to hang out with her and jam with her and we sang a version of "Love Potion No. 9" in the studio for giggles. It was really kind of fun. And I met her another time at a Shawn Colvin concert at McCabe's Guitar Shop, one of my favorite clubs in L.A. > > cheers, > Roch > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2011 #539 > ***************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list, send to joni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 10:44:04 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: HOSL is magical! No need to explain or describe it here. I think we all get what you mean. I was just thinking, listening to the Tina Turner and Melody Gardot covers of Edith, how both somewhat capture the characters' ennui but neither conveys the glamour or elegance that Joni's version does. Such an incomparable artist in those days she was! On Nov 18, 2011, at 7:23 PM, anon anon wrote: > It's difficult to explain or describe,but there is something mysteriously, > ineffably magical about HOSL... I can understand Prince being obsessed by > it... ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2011 #541 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list, send to joni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------