From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2011 #517 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jmdl.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, November 16 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 517 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Kate's Snow, etc. NJC [gerard mclaughlin ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:50:32 +0000 From: gerard mclaughlin Subject: Re: Kate's Snow, etc. NJC haha. what great fun reading these posts. so familiar in mood to me. must be the joni connection. i was describing albums to my little niece only this afternoon and she said "oh i wish i lived way back then and got to see their paintings and their words". again somethings lost but somethings gained though here i think the loss is much more for the kids.... On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: > Yeah, I get what you're saying. Joni talks about things we can relate to > but elevates them to another plane. Kate tells weird little stories and > sometimes her voice (the high one) annoys the crap out of me. Nonetheless, > I still enjoy a lot of her stuff. Tori Amos knows how to massacre a vowel > unlike anyone else I know of, (she can draw a one-syllable, one-vowel word > into a multisyllabic word with every vowel in the English language and a > few from some other language I'm not familar with), and you can rarely > understand what she's saying. It might as well be a completely different > language. I love some of her stuff, hate some of it and some of it just > bores me. I like a lot of early Bjork, but have difficulty getting into her > more recent stuff. She also does a lot of weird things with her voice. > Sometimes it works (for me, that is - others may differ) and sometimes it > doesn't. At least she has the excuse of English not being her mother tongue. > > I miss albums too. I miss the size of LPs as well (I know you can buy them > again now, at least for some artists, but it's not the same - it's > something that hipsters seem to be into, but I got rid of my LPs and > turntable ages ago and don't plan to go back there, because money is short, > and so is space and so, for that matter, is life). I miss the larger > artwork (and being able to read the lyrics!) And I miss the concept and one > song flowing into another and how some artists really excelled at that, and > you could spend an entire afternoon listening to an album over and over. I > know I can listen to CDs that way, or whole albums on my Ipod, but somehow > it just isn't the same. I read recently how the whole idea of albums may be > becoming a thing of the past and that singles are the thing. that makes me > a little bit sad - even though, hypocrite that I am, I usually have my Ipod > on shuffle anyway (because sometimes I just want the next song to be a > surprise.) > > As far as my crappy memory can recall, I'm sure I loved every new Joni > album as it came out, at least up until DED or thereabouts. After that, > it's just a big blur and the rest of life kind of took over and the magic > went away! > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Betsy Blue > *To:* gerard mclaughlin ; Catherine McKay < > anima_rising@yahoo.ca> > *Cc:* "joni@smoe.org" > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2011 11:00:58 AM > *Subject:* Kate's Snow, etc. NJC > > Maybe I'm not "not British enough" for Kate...maybe I'm just not getting > it. Kate seems to be in a different world. I. get the same feeling from > Tori and Bjork at times. Part of it is their vocalization and part of it is > the actual lyrics. I still don't understand most Tori-isms, even though > she's from the US. > > Joni's observations are of this world and human beings, although her > perspective is sort of otherworldly. Hearing her music is a little like > stepping away from an impressionist painting. She also has great diction > and didn't cover with too much production until the late 80s. (Yes, CMIARS, > I'm talking about you.) Everything makes some sense on first listen, and > you pick up more as time goes on. > > It's hard for me to think of Hejira as "new" or "difficult" because it has > always been there for me. Ever since my little fetal ears developed, > anyway. To me, it's as perfect as an album with no piano could be. > > On a tangent, I miss albums! Like Lesson in Survival's seamless transition > into Let the Wind Carry Me. What is Underneath the Streetlight but sounding > brass and tinkling cymbals without Love? It seems like there are fewer and > fewer albums worth listening to or buying in whole. And the packaging, > which was such a joy to behold back in the day, hardly matters now. I > remember studying the Sgt Pepper LP for ages as a kid. > > End of Rant. > > Betsy ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2011 #517 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list, send to joni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------