From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2011 #493 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jmdl.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, November 15 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 493 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Ed Sheeran njc [Mags ] Ed Sheeran njc [Anita G ] Re: Pandora Success [Bob Muller ] Today's young adults ... [Brian Gross ] Recent NPR mentions ["Betsy Blue" ] Talk to Me???? [Merk54@aol.com] Re: Peter Herbert [Bob Muller ] Canada Post stamps - Joni stamps still available [Brian Gross ] Re: Peter Herbert [David Lahm ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 09:57:37 -0800 (PST) From: Mags Subject: Re: Ed Sheeran njc Anita, always nice to learn about new music...here's a link to Amy's page, with an opportunity to hear some samplings and learn a bit more about her and her work. There's a note about your Ed Sheenan recording as well (songs I wrote with Amy). Nice find, thanks so much for sharing. Mags http://www.amywadge.com/music.php ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 17:16:25 +0000 From: Anita G Subject: Ed Sheeran njc Dear Joni People Having coming out of my Mrs Grumpy Bitch, I thought I would post some good news. From time to time, I have posted news here of my good friend Any Wadge, who, like many musicians I have known (some on the list here) has soldiered on in the music business despite many mishaps and bumping in to all kind of unsavoury and exploitative characters. One of my favourite Amy songs, 'These Are the Songs (that saved my life) tells of Amy at 13 years old, playing 'Joni till my fingers bled', so she is an all round good egg. I was aware that Amy had written some songs with Ed Sheeran, whose debut album, the enigmatically titled + went straight in at number one in the album charts over here in the UK. One of the songs in +,'Gold Rush', was a co write with Amy and, when I met up with Amy this week-end, was delighted to hear that she is going to receive a platinum disc for the song. The other good news is that the ep of songs Ed wrote with Amy, called 'Songs I Wrote With Amy' is looking like it's going to be re-released, so it may well be that she now will reap the rewards of all her years of flogging round some pretty dead end places, but has always kept going. I am delighted for her, and I really love Ed Sheeran's album. For those great singer songwriters out there who can get so discouraged by the music biz, it's a reminder that hard graft can pay off! Happy Monday Anita ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:20:51 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Pandora Success Hi Paul, That's pretty cool - then again I'm sure that selecting "Talk To Me" as a go-by burned a few wires in the ol' Pandora genome. After all, what is it? Certainly not folk. Not jazz either, even though Jaco plays a prominent role. It's just "Joni", a musical segment all its own. I actually heard it on my computer this week and it always makes me think of how much fun (and how tricky) it is to sing. I was incredibly blessed to have Marian accompanying me that night at the Full Moon. I have a Pandora Station based on Steely Dan's "Bad Sneakers". That drags up some strange stuff too. Bob NP: Hank Dogs, "18 Dogs" ________________________________ From: paul meyer-strom To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 5:39 AM Subject: Pandora Success I had long been frustrated that my Pandora station rooted in "Talk To Me" gave me nothing but folk songs. Hootenannies with Pete Seeger, Fairport Convention, etc. (Not that I don't like those things, but on a DJRD-based station?) I emailed Pandora, assuming that I would get a robo-response. Instead, I got a response from Martha at Pandora, who said, when she looked into it, that someone had miscategorized DJRD as folk, and she was sending it back to be reanalyzed. Today, there was jazz on the station! "One small victory..." Paul ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:55:04 -0500 From: Brian Gross Subject: Today's young adults ... http://m.npr.org/story/141232995?url=/blogs/allsongs/2011/10/11/141232995/you ve-never-heard-joni-mitchells-blue&ft=1&f=10001 You've Never Heard Joni Mitchell's 'Blue'?! Courtesy of the artist Published: November 14, 2011 by Clare Flynn Note: This is a recurring series in which we ask our unimaginably young interns to review classic albums they've never heard before. Clare Flynn is the latest intern for All Songs Considered. About a month ago, I was sitting at the dining-room table at my house in California, listening to Laura Marling's latest album, while my mom sat on the couch nearby. "Is that Joni Mitchell?" my mom asked, looking up from a magazine. "No," I replied, incredulously. "It's the new Laura Marling album!" As if it could be anyone else. "Hmm. It sounds just like her," my mom said. The embarrassing thing is, I really wouldn't know. Aside from a few of Joni Mitchell's most famous tunes b "California" is required listening for anyone from my home state b I have never listened to an entire album by the influential folksinger. Admittedly, I feel guilty and a little bit ashamed; for starters, I'm an avid folk fan. But I'm also the latest intern for All Songs Considered and assume I'm expected to have an encyclopedic knowledge of all music ever made. How could I not know Joni Mitchell's music? So, when asked to pick a classic album to review for this series, I chose the legendary singer-songwriter's classic 1971 album Blue. Immediately, from the very first percussive acoustic-guitar strums of "All I Want," I could tell I was going to like this album, a lot. Before this, I'd only heard the song in a scene from the 2010 film The Kids Are All Right. Annette Bening and Mark Ruffalo sing it across a dinner table (pardon the Italian dubbing at the end of this clip). Their a cappella rendition was enough to reveal the earnest poetry and rhythm of Mitchell's lyrics: "Do you see / Do you see / Do you see how you hurt me, baby? / So I hurt you, too / Then we both get so blue." But, of course, it was nothing like hearing the real thing. Like any memorable album, there was plenty to keep me coming back to Blue beyond my first listen. Mitchell's lyrics aren't just poetic; they're full of tiny details that seem mundane at first but carry a lot of emotional weight. "But when he's gone / Me and them lonesome blues collide / The bed's too big / The frying pan's too wide," she sings in "My Old Man," revealing the kind of small details noticed only when someone is finally gone. Then there's that voice b a ringing, emotive and unequaled sound that evokes the complicated emotions behind the lyrics, with the slightest quiver or subtle change in inflection. These songs are universal. Acoustic guitar, piano and a great voice never go out of style, and aside from referring to the Mermaid CafC) and calling her boyfriend a "mean old daddy," Mitchell sings about love in a way that would be relevant in any time period. Perhaps that's why "California" is still one of the most personally resonant songs I've ever heard. Maybe it's because I really did go to a party down a red dirt road while studying abroad in Spain, but more likely it's because, like many people my age, I've been living away from home on and off for several years now. When Mitchell sings about the news back home being full of war and unrest, it's not hard to connect the bleakness of that time period to today. A generation of young people is still dealing with war and political discontent, feeling restless and struggling to find work. In our uncertainty, many of us find ourselves far from home, moving to different cities to find work or traveling overseas to teach English. Those feelings of loneliness and longing to be home resonate as much now as they did for Joni Mitchell 40 years ago. No matter how talented a musician is, we always seem to connect more with the artists of our generation than with those of another. At the end of it all, I'm still biased: I still prefer the more modern folk sound of Laura Marling's music over that of Joni Mitchell. Maybe it's because I've listened to Marling's music for a few years now and have seen her perform live on a couple of occasions (an experience that almost always increases my appreciation for a musician). Or maybe it's because, at 21, Marling is one year younger than me and making some of the most gorgeous music I've ever heard. I admire Marling more for doing things I could never hope to do, despite being approximately the same age. Who knows? If I'd grown up alongside Mitchell, maybe I'd have the same appreciation for her and her music. Perhaps that's why my mother connects more to Mitchell's music, while I connect more to Marling's. At least for now, I'm contented knowing how deeply indebted musicians like Marling are to Joni Mitchell b for that, I have to thank her. [Copyright 2011 National Public Radio] Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:49:15 +0000 From: "Betsy Blue" Subject: Recent NPR mentions I hope someone out there appreciates these, but there's no need to respond. A Laura Marling-loving intern listens to Blue all the way through and gives some thoughts. You've Never Heard Joni Mitchell's 'Blue'?! tinyurl.com/c6j6kxy Kate's new disc is called a "Joni Mitchell answer record". The full album is available to stream now, but not for long. (It's not as accessible as DJRD, but Elton John sounds great on one track.) First Listen: Kate Bush, '50 Words For Snow' tinyurl.com/caykzle Clips and mention of arranging Joni. Vince Mendoza: A Song Doctor Gets Back To His Own Work tinyurl.com/cqc2yay Writer and actress (Kelly) from The Office, Mindy Kaling mentions Nietzsche and Blue.b, b*Is Everyone Hanging Out Without Me? (And Other Concerns)b, b*tinyurl.com/788535sb, - -Betsy b* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:00:26 -0500 (EST) From: Merk54@aol.com Subject: Talk to Me???? This isn't really Joni related, but it's related to this topic and so darn funny I just had to share it. Sorry if this offends any of the Joni Only's. After reading Paul's email message about Talk to Me, and then Bob's response, I got another email with the Subject line "Talk to Me!". Cool, I thought, someone started a thread about this song triggered by Paul's email. As a big fan of DJRD, I anxiously opened the email, only to see the follow message. Hi Will you be my Prince Charming? Visit my profile at quickhotties dot com Hugs and kisses Debbie I laughed so hard, I could have pissed a tequila anaconda! Jack In a message dated 11/14/2011 6:25:31 P.M. Central Standard Time, scjoniguy@yahoo.com writes: Hi Paul, That's pretty cool - then again I'm sure that selecting "Talk To Me" as a go-by burned a few wires in the ol' Pandora genome. After all, what is it? Certainly not folk. Not jazz either, even though Jaco plays a prominent role. It's just "Joni", a musical segment all its own. I actually heard it on my computer this week and it always makes me think of how much fun (and how tricky) it is to sing. I was incredibly blessed to have Marian accompanying me that night at the Full Moon. I have a Pandora Station based on Steely Dan's "Bad Sneakers". That drags up some strange stuff too. Bob NP: Hank Dogs, "18 Dogs" ________________________________ From: paul meyer-strom To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 5:39 AM Subject: Pandora Success I had long been frustrated that my Pandora station rooted in "Talk To Me" gave me nothing but folk songs. Hootenannies with Pete Seeger, Fairport Convention, etc. (Not that I don't like those things, but on a DJRD-based station?) I emailed Pandora, assuming that I would get a robo-response. Instead, I got a response from Martha at Pandora, who said, when she looked into it, that someone had miscategorized DJRD as folk, and she was sending it back to be reanalyzed. Today, there was jazz on the station! "One small victory..." Paul ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:05:59 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Peter Herbert Well, I'm the FIRST to admit that I can't find 'em all on my own, so I always appreciate the help I get from kind folks around the world. I've done a fairly good job of keeping up with them here in China, am anxious to get home end of the month and check into I-Tunes and some other sources I can't get to from here. And then of course get back into putting the tunes out there for people to enjoy (or cringe as the case may be). Bob NP: Rolling Stones, "Sweet Black Angel" ________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:11:04 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: Canada Post stamps - Joni stamps still available I know this is old news, but for those who didn't acquire them when they were released on June 29, 2007 (doesn't seem like it's been that long!), some are still available, but who knows for how long. For Canada and the US: 1-800-565-4362 Elsewhere: 902-863-6550 www.canadapost.ca/collecting www.postescanada.ca/collection Item #413676111 Booklet of 8 stamps (random cover: Joni, Gordon Lightfoot, Paul Anka, Anne Murray) C$4.16 Item #413676701 Set of 4 booklets, one each cover C$16.94 Item #403676145 Souvenir sheet of 4 stamps (one each artist) C$2.08 Item #403676144 Souvenir sheet (as above) OFDC C$3.08 Item #262169 Individual postcard (Joni) C$1.69 Item #262166 Set of 4 postcards (one each artist) C$6.76 Take care everyone, Brian in south jersey USA - ----------------------------------------------------------- Politicians and diapers both need to be changed often. And usually for the same reasons. - ----------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:37:38 -0500 From: anon anon Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2011 #480 Regarding Judy Collins and Joni, I've wondered if Judy's comments about Joni might in part reflect hurt feelings due to Joni saying in an interview that Judy's version of "both sides now", which was a hit of course for Judy, was "superficial"... When I read that comment I thought it was a bit harsh, and it would be perfectly natural for Judy Collins to be stung by those words... Of course it could be other things as well... we don't know what happened between them... tJoni did say that her heart was broken about Judy Collins initially standing her up at ther Newport Folk festival in the 60's, but that's ancient history... I wouldn't think there would still be hurt feelings about that, but who really knows what it's about? the only ones who would know are Judy and Joni and whomever they've talked to about it... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:03:51 -0500 From: David Lahm Subject: Re: Peter Herbert Peter Herbert played bass for most of the cuts on my 1999 CD JAZZ TAKES ON JONI MITCHELL. He was an incredibly helpful colleague. His musical interests range far beyond jazz; he is, I believe, pretty well known in Europe. DAVID LAHM On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 3:47 AM, Vincenzo Mancini wrote: > Never heard about this: > > Peter Herbert - 'Joni' (available - f.i.- on > amazon.com) > feat. ena/vocals, Wolfgang Mitterer/elctronics, Koehne quartet, > Peter Herbert/b, comp. > > I checked the undercover data base on the website and > I could not find any Peter Herbert, although I would doubt Bob did not > already > get it... > > Vincenzo > > Comment found on > http://www.azizamusic.com/projects.html > 'Be cool' sings Joni Mitchell, cool is > also the fact, that there is almost no Jazz musician, who doesn't adore > Joni > Mitchell, also due to the fact, that in a lot of works she collaborated > with > big names like Herbie Hancock, Wayne Shorter or Charles Mingus with her > legendary recording 'Mingus'. I also belong to this community of eternal > 'Joni'-fans, this project is a humble hommage to her unique lyrics and > music. > By putting new music for string quintet and electronics to her melodies I > try > to add a new aspect to her world. With the very versatile 'Koehne quartet', > the excentric electronic sounds by Wolfgang Mitterer and the distinct > voice of > ena I hope to reinterpret songs like Love, Blue or Moon at the window new, > in > all due respect and humbleness. > record release date: Oct 14th 2011, label: > col-legno ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2011 #493 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list, send to joni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------