From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2011 #389 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jmdl.com JMDL Digest Sunday, October 23 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 389 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Photo & Trouble Child and Malibu Colony House connection NJC [Moni Ke] FW: Trouble Child ["Robert Sartorius" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 21:12:48 +0200 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: Re: Photo & Trouble Child and Malibu Colony House connection NJC Am 20.10.2011 02:50, Wie Chandra so vortrefflich formulierte: > In 1975 the Band moved out to California. Northern Lights - Southern > Cross was recorded there. source: http://shangrilamalibu.com/history It has been said that those who can find Shangri La will discover inner peace, love and prosperity. So wrote author James Hilton in his 1933 classic, Lost Horizon, where he portrays the journey to find a mythical lamasery high in the mountains of Tibet. The novel was later made into a film, starring Jane Wyatt, Ronald Colman and Margo Albert. After the film's success, it was Margo who built this rolling ranch house nestled in the hills of Zuma Beach, and called it Shangri La. There is a mythical quality to the property, and it took on many forms before becoming one of the most renowned recording studios in the history of rock music. For a time, it was an upscale bordello, rumored to have hosted the Hollywood elite of the 1950's. In the early 1960's TV's Mr. Ed was filmed and stabled at this timeless ranch above the sea. In the early 1970's Rob Fraboni designed and built the recording studios at Shangri La to the precise specifications of Bob Dylan and the Band. As president and co-owner of the studio he recorded albums for many artists, including 'Northern Lights-Southern Cross' for The Band. Drummer for The Band Levon Helm described Shangri La as "...a clubhouse and studio where we and our friends could record albums and cross-pollinate one another's music" During this period, Eric Clapton spent nearly three months here, recording with the likes of Bob Dylan (who was living in a tent in the rose garden), Van Morrison, Ringo Starr, Pete Townshend, Joe Cocker, Billy Preston and Ronnie Wood. It was with this all star cast that Clapton's 'No Reason To Cry' album was created. In Clapton's biography 'Crossroads', he describes the sessions at Shangri La as an intensely creative period, where all-night jam sessions and wild parties were the norm. In the mid 1970's, Robbie Robertson and Martin Scorsese used Shangri La as a location and rehearsal studio for the film 'The Last Waltz', widely hailed as one of the greatest concert films of all time. There are several scenes that feature the studio, which gave the public a rare look into this famed location. - -- moni k. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 11:53:58 -0400 From: "Robert Sartorius" Subject: FW: Trouble Child My apologies if this is appearing for a second time, but I did not see it in the only joni digest, so I assume it got blocked the first time for some reason. Bobsart - -----Original Message----- From: Robert Sartorius [mailto:bobsart48@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 2:10 PM To: Cc: Subject: RE: Trouble Child Randy wrote: "I don't know what the hard evidence is, but I always think of Crosby when I hear it. Also the line "looking for an ocean"." This followed Kakki's "What makes it seem possible is the line "where is the lion in you to defy him when you're this weak and this spacey." Crosby is a Leo.On another note, both Crosby and Nash sang backround vocals on a few of the songs on Court & Spark." I had also thought that this was about Crosby, based on some reading (I am not clever enough to make this stuff up) - in my archived mental database I think I recall a story about Joni visiting Crosby when he was in an institution of some sort - rehab or otherwise. However, Sheila Weller, in "Girls Like Us" (a book whose research certainly appears to have been extensive) renders an account on pages 407-409 (paperback) that links Trouble Child to Joni's stay at a "residential think tank for therapists" following her "suicide attempt". The sequence reported in the book is that in late 1972, while Joni was involved with Jackson Browne, she rented an apartment in West Hollywood, on a hilly street between Santa Monica and Sunset. Things were going poorly between the two of them. Joni claimed that she got into a verbal argument with Browne, whom she felt had dissed her onstage, and that Browne had hit her. I infer that they did not break up immediately. Some time later, Browne interceded in a spat at the Troubadour on behalf of one Phyliis Major, whose boyfriend then threw a punch at Browne. This apparently won the fair maiden's heart (and Browne a trip home with her), and broke Joni's. One night after this incident, Joni waited all night at the apartment for Browne to arrive, but he didn't. This led to Joni's "suicide attempt" and the song "Car on a Hill". After the incident, on a recommendation from David Geffen, Joni went to the "think tank", where she got to pick the therapist she wanted. From this experience came the song "Trouble Child". Bobsart ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2011 #389 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list, send to joni@smoe.org. 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