From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2011 #363 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jmdl.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, October 19 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 363 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: Trouble Child ["Robert Sartorius" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:09:36 -0400 From: "Robert Sartorius" Subject: RE: Trouble Child Randy wrot: "I don't know what the hard evidence is, but I always think of Crosby when I hear it. Also the line "looking for an ocean"." This followed Kakki's "What makes it seem possible is the line "where is the lion in you to defy him when you're this weak and this spacey." Crosby is a Leo.On another note, both Crosby and Nash sang backround vocals on a few of the songs on Court & Spark." I had also thought that this was about Crosby, based on some reading (I am not clever enough to make this stuff up) - in my archived mental database I think I recall a story about Joni visiting Crosby when he was in an institution of some sort - rehab or otherwise. However, Sheila Weller, in "Girls Like Us" (a book whose research certainly appears to have been extensive) renders an account on pages 407-409 (paperback) that links Trouble Child to Joni's stay at a "residential think tank for therapists" following her "suicide attempt". The sequence reported in the book is that in late 1972, while Joni was involved with Jackson Browne, she rented an apartment in West Hollywood, on a hilly street between Santa Monica and Sunset. Things were going poorly between the two of them. Joni claimed that she got into a verbal argument with Browne, whom she felt had dissed her onstage, and that Browne had hit her. I infer that they did not break up immediately. Some time later, Browne interceded in a spat at the Troubadour on behalf of one Phyliis Major, whose boyfriend then threw a punch at Browne. This apparently won the fair maiden's heart (and Browne a trip home with her), and broke Joni's. One night after this incident, Joni waited all night at the apartment for Browne to arrive, but he didn't. This led to Joni's "suicide attempt" and the song "Car on a Hill". After the incident, on a recommendation from David Geffen, Joni went to the "think tank", where she got to pick the therapist she wanted. From this experience came the song "Trouble Child". Bobsart ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2011 #363 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list, send to joni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------