From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2011 #326 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jmdl.com JMDL Digest Thursday, October 6 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 326 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: She will not be quiet about this... [Lc Stanley ] Re: RIP Bert Jansch [Catherine McKay ] Re: Interviews with Joni's Parents [Catherine McKay ] Joni Mitchell: All Sides Now | CBC Archives [Sharon Watkins Subject: Re: She will not be quiet about this... Hi Michael, But is Joni a brilliant poet or rather a brilliant lyricist? B Here is what Joni has said about poets: B bIbm with Nietzsche on the poets: bThe poet is the vainest of the vain, even before the ugliest of water buffalo does he fan his tail. Ibve looked among them for an honest man and all Ibve dredged up are old godsb heads. He muddies his waters that he might appear deep.b What always bugged me about poetry in school was the artifice of it. When Dylan wrote, 'You've got a lot of nerve to say you are my friend,' as an opening line, the language was direct and undeniable. I love Yeats. As for Plath and Sexton, I'm sorry, but I smell a rat." B http://www.poetrymagazine.com/archives/2000/June-July00/classicpoet6-00.htm This article is pretty good about comparing lyrics and poetry: B http://www.iwritethesongs.com/articles/lyrics_vs_poetry.cfm I tend to think of Joni as both and beyond a poet or lyricist just like she can't be pigeon-holed as just a folk musician. Love, Laura ________________________________ From: Michael Sentance To: "joni@smoe.org" Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 9:06 PM Subject: She will not be quiet about this... From the New York Times: Dylan Tangled Up in Nobel Prize Speculation By JULIE BOSMAN Predictions for the Nobel Prize in Literature tend to be all over the place, especially in the final hours before the winner is named. But Bob Dylan? On the eve of the announcement of the prize, Ladbrokes, the British bookmaking chain, said that Mr. Dylan, the songwriter and author, had 5:1 odds of winning the Nobel, placing him ahead of Adonis, the Syrian poet; Haruki Murakami, the Japanese novelist; and Peter Nadas, a Hungarian writer. Mr. Dylan has been cited as a contender for the prize before, but he has received an unusual amount of buzz in the last day. However, Ladbrokes and other betting sites are not especially skilled at Nobel laureate predictions. In 2010, Adonis and the Swedish poet Tomas Transtromer topped the lists of possible winners in the days leading up to the announcement. The actual winner b coming relatively out of nowhere b was Mario Vargas Llosa, the Peruvian writer. This yearbs Nobel laureate will be announced by the Swedish Academy at 1 p.m. Stockholm time on Thursday. - --------------------------- Joni often has spoken about the lack of recognition of her work as poetry. I recall an interview in the Netherlands where she spoke about Dylan and Morrison being talked about as poets but not her. Personally I've never been a big Dylan fan so I find this utterly baffling. Best wishes to all. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 02:39:12 -0700 (PDT) From: carmel rotem Subject: R.I.P Bert Jansch (njc) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-HkBak9lmM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 09:44:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: RIP Bert Jansch Oh nooooo! So sad! >________________________________ >From: Steve Dulson >To: joni@smoe.org >Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 10:24:03 AM >Subject: RIP Bert Jansch > >http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/oct/05/bert-jansch?INTCMP=SRCH > >Hadn't known he was born four days before Joni.... > >*************************************************** >Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA >FAR-West (Folk Alliance Region - West) >tinkersown@ca.rr.com www.far-west.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 18:21:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Interviews with Joni's Parents Seems to be a problem with the page. I get the same message and I'm in Canada, so it's not one of those "not in your country" thingities. >________________________________ >From: Sharon Watkins >To: joni@smoe.org >Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 9:07:27 PM >Subject: Interviews with Joni's Parents > >The web page below indicates links to audio interviews with Joni's parents. Whenever I try to listen to the interviews I get a display that says: "Sorry the link you requested is not available". >Seems odd that this page would still be available but not the links. >Anyone know a way to get this to work? I am not technologically savy enough to figure it out. > >http://www.cbc.ca/jonimitchell/index.html?copy-interviews > >Thanks for your help! >Sharon > >Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 10:24:03 -0400 From: Steve Dulson Subject: RIP Bert Jansch http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/oct/05/bert-jansch?INTCMP=SRCH Hadn't known he was born four days before Joni.... *************************************************** Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA FAR-West (Folk Alliance Region - West) tinkersown@ca.rr.com www.far-west.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 20:20:24 -0500 From: Sharon Watkins Subject: Joni Mitchell: All Sides Now | CBC Archives These are some excellent audio and visual Joni links from CBC. Did not have trouble with any of these; just the parent interview links. Hope you all enjoy! Sharon http://archives.cbc.ca/arts_entertainment/music/topics/2462/ Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2011 #326 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list, send to joni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------